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i just bought a 180 gallon tank and i want a dovii and a jagur cichlid in it wat type of catfish can be put in with thos fish when i get they fish will be 2 inches long and i was thinking a TSN then transfer to a indoor pond when it get 18 inches long so it wont get eatin cuz that would be no good i just want to know wat choices i have to stock that tank with i definatly want large cichlids and a large catfish but yea my lfs has any type of fish.

There is Tiger Shovelnose catfish, but they get huge. I saw some site said they needed at least 200 gallons.

yes like i said it would go into a indoor pond which was a indoor pool and the whole pool is 12 feet deep. that tank would be a grow out tank for all the cats im gona put in that pond and maybe some arowanas would look pretty cool has a large rock bottem and tree stumps and has like a river bed look to the thing its cool maybe ill get pic when its all done.

Alright, you could go with those guys. They are amazing looking catfish. They actually look kind of similar to pike/barracuda. Caution though if you do get them, they can be aggressive. They had one at a LFS store in my area with a freshwater stingray. It ended up eating the 100+ stingray. Also there is Red Tail Catfish. They get pretty huge, even bigger than the tiger snovelnose. They are kind of a more traditional looking catfish but they look cool with their red tail. I think they could potentially become 5 feet long.

From behavior I have seen of these two types of fish. The redtail likes to stay more towards the bottom of the tank while the tiger snovelnose is more willing to come up to the surface of the water.

Considering the type of fish you are going to get, how about also getting Pacus and Silver Dollars too?

I'd like to clarify that aggressive does not mean the same as predatory. Eating something does not mean it's aggressive. Also, I've heard of the opposite happening; a stingray giving a good sting to a shovelnose that messed with it. Didn't kill it, but it wasn't in good shape for some time.

If that pool isn't built already, you should get on building it since catfish can grow monstrously fast.

I personally wouldn't put cichlids in a catfish grow-out tank. I'm not sure what species of catfish can take a beating from cichlids if the cichlids decided to get aggressive. Some of the larger Pims are probably what you want. Maybe Iridescent Sharks would work if that pool is big enough (you just gave depth, not surface area, which is the dimension that actually matters more).

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the pond is already built and has a 2 foot red tail cat and 3 19 inch TSN cats and about 6 arowanas that range from 1 to 3 feet long. all the catfish that i have kept for grow out with all cichlids and they are all fine but i was wondering if i could put some large type of eel like a fire eel or a tire track eel in the big pond but idk if it will gettin eattin.