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JIMMY319126
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hii everybody
i have 122*50*60cm (366 l) 96.7 us g tank
i will make it ((planted discus tank))) but i am confused

how many fish(only discus) can i keep safe ,happy and soo full grown (((((((for the long run)))))) i read articles say 10g per fish another say 20g another say 13g

what is the right???????????
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Bob Wesolowski
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Jimmy,


Water quality is much more important to discus then swimming room. Asian breeders regularly shatter the XXX gallons per adult fish rule but they generally do 100% water changes per day.

A fully grown (6 inch) discus should have ten (10) gallons of water. Again water quality is much more important than swimming room. I have had 5 adult discus breeding in a 30 gallon planted aquarium. Of course, I was doing 50% water changes each day!

If you keep your nitrates to a minimum ( plants help) and great water conditions, you should be able to squeeze an extra fish or two into that 96 gallon box.



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JIMMY319126
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EditedEdited by jimmy319126
i agree with u bob,

but this when i buy them full grown 6"

my point is i will buy them young 2-3" i think the bigger room the bigger growth (even more than 6"



and i think u support the rule of 10g per ault

my intent is to keep 6-8 fishs is this okkkk ((((and again with the long run))))

is different discus colours mean different behaviour between them??
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As mentioned before when dealing with Discus water quality is everything, but I'm not sure if you want to be doing 50% water changes everyday. But with a bigger tank, its more forgiving, so I would probley go with 5-6 full grown discus in that size tank. You would be able to put some others in the tank aswell, such as cories and maybe a few blue rams. The different colors wont matter in terms of them getting along.
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Bob Wesolowski
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Jimmy,

I go either way on the 10G per adult discus. The measure is perfect for the guy who thinks that a 30% water change once a week is great water quality. If you are inclined to maintenanc e and water changes, you can go less...

You mentioned growing out 2 - 3 inch fish. Juvenile discus are tender. Their immune systems have not fully developed so they are susceptible to the slight quality problems. If you intend to grow out fish, I would buy a dozen for the tank but not plant the tank or put in any substrate, just a bare box with water, heater filter and hardscape such as driftwood.

The reason for the minimal surroundings is that it will be easy to clean as you will want to feed the fish 3 to 4 times per day. The fish should grow to 4 - 5 inch size within 6 months at which time you have your adults for the planted tank!

However, I have never ever listened to my own advice when I advocated taking the time to do things the right way when I could have it my way today! You should be able to place those same dozen juveniles in the planted tank but their growth will be much slower and they may have some fits and starts with their health.

I apologize for the colloquialisms in my English, I hope that you catch my meaning...



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JIMMY319126
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EditedEdited by jimmy319126
dont apologize i catch some
cuz u know i see a lot of movies
sooo u say dozen its a sweet number can i keep this in bare tank
but why dozen to make them feel safer or what for fun???

and what i catch from ur colloquialisms english that u say i can challenge rules and put the dozen in the planted tank but i should give them more care

now my final decision

i will buy 8 Juveniles and grow them out in a planted tank

and do 10~15% water changes every day(is this enough water changes or what u recommend??)



agreed or whats ur comment???
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Bob Wesolowski
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Jimmy,

The cleaner that you have the water, the better your fish will grow. Remember, you will be buying children. Children eat a lot and poop a lot. The food that they miss and the food that they process will foul the tank.

Water changes and tank maintenance are the least expensive things that you can do to keep healthy fish. Tank maintenance is cleaning your filter , vacuuming the substrate and doing whatever you can to eliminate nitrates.

Never worry if your water changes are more than 15%, I have routinely done 50% water changes in my planted discus tank. The large water changes seem to perk the fish up...

Good luck!

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