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Cavey
 
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You guys ever heard of this?

Some pics and info would be apprciated.

Thanks

Terry
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hey cavey,i done a serch on google and found plenty off info on the blue eyed cichlid but nothing on the thai princess blue eyed cichlid,so if you want to wack that in google youll be on your way,are you thinkimg of getting one of these,they arent bad looking ether...i didnt go into to much depth but there was plenty of info for you to read good luck
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I've heard of a Jade Eye Cichlid, but not a "Thai Princess Blue Eyed Cichlid".

This sounds as if it might be yet another variation on the Flowerhorn hybrid theme, and if so, will have associated with it all the problems known to Flowerhorn owners - most important of these being that it will probably possess an utterly pyroclastic temper, possibly to the point of being intolerant of anything else in the aquarium apart from some rocks.

If on the other hand, it's a true species, and possibly a population variant of the Jade Eye Cichlid, then it will be a LOT less aggressive than a Flowerhorn! If it's a variant of the Jade Eye Cichlid, you're looking at Cryptoheros spilurus, which is one of the more peaceful medium sized Central Americans.

Another possibility is Cryptoheros sajica. This is known as a T-Bar Cichlid, and is quite impressive to look at. Haven't heard of it having conspicuously blue eyes though ...


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when i done the search i recall seeing something about spilurus,but i cant be sure i visted a fair few pages,and as i said above i didnt read into too much depth
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this is my blue- eyed cichlid. I have not heard of it being a thai princess. It is cryptoheros spillurum or cutteri depending on which book you read.
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Maybe we're talking Neolamprologus brichardi? Sometimes it's called the Fairy or Princess cichlid. Maybe N. pulcher, also called the Princess cichlid.

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No, Neolamprologus Brichardi has been known both in the UK and on continental Europe as the Princess Of Burundi Cichlid - Burundi being a small African nation that has its western border adjoining Lake Tanganyika's northern extremities, and in whose territorial waters the fish is found. This is a name that has been in circulation for many years, indeed the name was circulating in publications in Europe in the early 70s, and made its way to American fishkeepers when the 1970s "Rift Lake Gold Rush" began.

I am still minded to consider that the so-called "Thai Princess Blue Eye Cichlid" is either of the following:

[1] A naturally occurring colour morph or population variant of Cryptoheros spilurus;

[2] A recently developed artificial colour strain of C. spilurus (similar to the true breeding Convict colour strains in existence);

[3] A hybrid Cichlid containing some C. spilurus parentage;

[4] A trade name for one of the legions of Flowerhorns in circulation;

[5] A mistake upon someone's part in referring to the original C. spilurus, possibly because the stock originated from a Thai commercial breeder.

Of these options, I consider [5] the most likely, and if [5] turns out not to apply, then my earnest hope is that the fish in question falls under [1] or [2]. Preferably [1] because in general, Man's attempts to "improve" upon nature as regards fish aesthetics have a chequered history to put it mildly, certainly in the world of Cichlids (and anyone seeing Xystichromis phytophagus should be convinced once and for all that we don't NEED hybrids or artificial colour variants) but if the fish falls under [2], then please let it be an aberrant form that was spotted by some enterprising aquarist and fixed by sound breeding techniques. The last thing that poor old C. spilurus needs is to be part of a genetic "cut and shut" operation involving weird hybridisation experiments that bear more relation to mediaeval attempts to produce homunculi than anything scientifically or ethically legitimate.


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Calilasseia - Your logic is good, and I don't doubt that you are probably correct.

I was just thinking of other cichlids with Princess in the common name, they do have blue around their eyes, and maybe Burundi or brichardi were mistaken for Thai (this was a very loose train of thought, but I've seen some very oddly labeled cichlids in LFSs through the years).

Anyway, I sure wish the original poster would come back and let us know if google images of the fish we've mentioned match the mystery fish!

Eric

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i asked my guy at my lfs,and he said he never herd of it ether,just the blue eyed cichlid,he said that they can gather all sorts of names over time,soetimes this is a bad attempt at beefing up the price on the fish
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If it's a marketing ploy, then it won't work with anyone who actually knows anything about Cichlids for one simple reason. The only Asian Cichlids in existence are the oddball members of the Genus Etroplus, and to my knowledge none of those fishes have blue eyes.

Personally, I wish the marketing people would take a back seat sometimes - the fish can do their own marketing quite nicely thank you ...


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yeah i aggree,i wound not be sucked in by a name,i think its pretty lame marketing idea myself,like i NEVER purchased a fish cause of its name,but what can you do...
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