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	"begginner"pond /cw livebearers/120g
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	What size pond would be best for someone starting out & what fish could I put in it? mum said that we would only get a 120g at the VERY MOST, so what should I put in it? I dunno if I should make a post at the Livebearer section but anyway, at about 3 out of 5 lfs's ive been to there are tanks labelled "cold water liveberers", "cold water mollies" etc, could I keep some of those in a pond? I live in Sydney & the pond won't freeze over. I'd also like "the bacics" of what I need to do in order to have a pond. Thanx in advance
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001	Paradisefish are becoming common pondfish in sydney. There are also a good selection of natives that would be suitable... Firetail gudgeons maybe? For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
rabbit Fish Addict Posts: 580 Kudos: 461 Votes: 7 Registered: 24-Oct-2003	pond pumps,lino, sand,rocks,dechlorinator, you can get some plants, and id be aware of how many cats there are in your area.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	yes cats I do have a cat, but he's a real scardy cat , I don't know how many other cats are in the area though. Anyone know about the cw mollies etc? Calla if you had a 120g pond what would you put in it? What maintanence is needed to keep a pond of that size? Im thinking, 4 Dojo loaches 6 cw platies? 6 wcmm 4 cw mollies? 5 male cw guppies? ____? fry? 4 paradise fish? & what else? 1 or 2 Bristlenose Pleco? & could I put java moss in to help fry servive? Last edited by dude_dude at 21-Apr-2005 23:14
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
rabbit Fish Addict Posts: 580 Kudos: 461 Votes: 7 Registered: 24-Oct-2003	i wouldnt put BN's in there
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	why? their profile says 18* would my pond be too cold?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001	coldwater guppies, mollies and platies aren't really going to be suitable for a frosty pond. They are just on the cooler range of temperate, they aren't really cold cold water. For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	oh, thanx calla. Can u please give me a list of what fish I could put in the pool? any help appreciated Do ponds in syd get frosty or you could give me a temp & any fish in that range of temp I can put in a pond? Last edited by dude_dude at 22-Apr-2005 00:15
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Callatya Moderator The girl's got crabs! Posts: 9662 Kudos: 5261 Registered: 16-Sep-2001	What area of sydney are we talking? Have ever gotten up at 5 or 6 and had the grass go crunch, or had to hose off the ice on the windshield, or puffed out steam for half the morning? yeah, it gets cold. Less so right smack on the coast, but still too frosty for most fishies. 120G is enough for goldies... and they do look good veiwed from above. That is going to be something you will need to consider if you are going to want the fish to be a feature. Something that is laterally compressed (discus shaped) is not going to look so great from above. For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	I suppose you have a point (I live in wharoonga & i've never gotten up at 5am here) What kind of goldfish & how many do you think I should get?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Alex Fish Addict 510 Posts: 721 Registered: 03-Oct-2004	if you could find a small heater ie 100odd watts just to make sure the temps dont get too cold you could have fancy goldies ie red caps black moores and calico faintails. how about 2 black moores 2 calico fantails 2 red caps or you could try and you wouldnt need a heater 2 shrubkin 1 turtle Mr Moosegills ''All the clown fish and yellow tangs in the world cant save you now!''
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22
Hoa dude_dude Mega Fish Posts: 957 Kudos: 888 Votes: 72 Registered: 28-Dec-2004	2 black moores or 2 fantails 6 wcmm 4 dojo loaches Any other suggestions? If I got the heater would I be able to have cw livebearers? -------- Thank you, do you think this stocklist is good?, 6 wcmm's (white cloud mountain minnows) 2 fantail goldfish 2 black moors 4 dojo loaches 2 paradise fish -------------------- How much money will a good setup cost these days (prices may differ as I live in Sydney Aus) im guessing, $300 for base pond $80 for filter $100 for plants & gravel $100 for fish $20 for all those little things I think thats all ... only $600 anyway, is there anything you think I missed out? Could I use the filter as the water feacher & have it slightly out of the water, like a small waterfall? thanx ps,(sorry bout' my spelling) Last edited by dude_dude at 23-Apr-2005 00:37
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:22


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