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well if she doesnt want to pay then buy one for her

to answer babels question - I think they sell them here as feeders... not sure though

hmm ya sure? I thought I remembered calla saying that I couldnt get them... hmm

maybe they were acf's

Oh really?
I thought several australian members had mentioned they had ADFs.
Are you sure? It may be that African Clawed Frogs are illegal, but African Dwarfs?

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sorry sneaky pete, if her friend lives in australia theres no way of getting an adf (legally that is )

*kicks laws*

Then she cant have fish I guess.
How about a pair of African Dwarf Frogs?
Frogs, like all amphibians are pretty resilient and hardy, and can handle just about anything.
Very lovely little critters too.


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Ok, thanks, she will not get a bigger tank.

I would recommend to your friend to get a larger tank.
A 5g would be much better, a 10g would give her way more options. I dont know if you have stores that sell tank kits like we do here, but I picked up my 10g tank, came with hood, tank, filter,heater, for 39.96 Canadian.
Thats only $42.50 AUD. Not very expensive at all.
A 2g tank here costs more than that by itself!
Bigger is sometimes cheaper and better anyway.
A Betta really needs a heated tank.
There are really no options for a coldwater 2g tank.


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a betta will work, but again wont be active, or colorful. misquito fishes may be your only choise. if she doesn't want to pay for a heater(which i thought was cheap) then fishkeeping may not be for her. b/c when you think of it, it will get expensive. filters,plants,food,fish etc.

10c is about 50F.. people let their houses get that low? It gets down to -20F in the winter and we don't let the house go below 65. Guppies would probably be better than bettas but they prefer 60s. Even snails need 65F or above. Within a few days below 60 they will die. I don't know of anything that wouldn't mind temps that low and fit in a 2g tank.

My friend wants to get a small tank. It will probably be around a 2 gallon and no bigger. It will have to be coldwater, and she doesn't want a skinny fish like a white cloud or danio. Do you have any ideas? I though maybe a small paradise fish, or are these too big? Can bettas survive in cold water 2 gallons? She doesn't have heating, just a radiator, so it would get pretty cold at night.

Thanks for your help, I need answers ASAP, as I am seeing her tonight,and I would like some suggestions by then, thanks.

You can't heat a 2 gallon can you? I don't think she really wants to pay for a heater. She would absolutely love a betta, are you sure they would survive?

yes bettas will work, but they will not be very active, or colorful. a paradice fish may work, in fact well. the only thing i can suggest is a misquito fish. but i would not go with a gold fish or betta.

Only thing I know of is mosquito fish, and those seem to be illegal in Oz....common guppies can handle lower temperatures. The issue IMO isnt so much the low temp as any shifts in temp in a 24 hour period.
No chance of a heater for it?

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It would probably go down to around 15 degrees celcius at night, on a really really cold night maybe 10 degrees celsius.

I dont think there is anything she can keep in that small of a cold water tank except a trio of white clouds.


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Can you tell us the lowest tempereature of the tank?. How much low will it be at night.


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hmmm, sorry I dont *think* anything can go in there, maybe a snail?