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jasonpisani
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I think that they'll be fine in a big tank like you have.


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I am not very familiar with celcius (I am sorry for that), but if your actual water temperature falls below 60 degrees F, most plecos are going to die. Not only are they from a region where the water temps do not drop that far but they also live in muddy banks which is a tad bit warmer than the usual water temperature during winter.

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You can see some really cool Pleco's at this site:-

http://www.plecofanatics.com/

& see what it's best for you.


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What about Plecos?

Can they stay in ponds?
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channel cats, but may get to large. if the pond is large enough i would get my favorite fish, the high fin loach that will do well in hot and cold water ponds.
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OK. Can you reply to my question in the previos post about the catfish?
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You got the answers for the Fibre Glass tanks on the Malta site & so i'm not going to repeat them here.



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I will check for you about the Fibre Glass tanks & give you a reply.


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OK then.

Do you know of any catfish, such as Pleco, that can live in an outdoor pond?

I live in Malta and air temperature in Winter does not get lower than 10 degrees Celsius, maybe 8 degrees least and rarely does - water never freezes amd neother does snow fall.

And a Question for Jason Pisani:

Do you know from where I can order FibreGlass tanks?
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thats what i was thinking about katie, how i told him what i thought. but n.e way that pond of 1000+ usgallons sounds good.
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OK ... just got from a holiday - bought 4 juvenile Koi.

Currently in a 2 square foot tank but will be in a 10 feet x 5 feet tank by 2 weeks time.

Currently feeding pellets with 36% protein.

Any suggestions about anything that regards them and might be of interest in my situation is greatly appreciated.
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I think so. Theyre small now and it should work long term. But if you end up having to make more room, i dont think it would have to be a huge addition given the size of it already.

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Will it have enough capacity to ensure that my 4 Koi reach full size given that I take good care for them?
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These are the calculations from fp's calculator:

Tank Volume Calculator

Tank Capacity:
Litres: 4247.53
US Gallons: 1122.2
UK Gallons: 934.46
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How much will a 10 feet by 5 feet by 3 feet pond hold gallons of water?

And will it be enough for 4 Koi?
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"Any suggestions about anything that regards them and might be of interest in my situation is greatly appreciated."

The other poster gave you exactly what you asked for. You wanted suggestions and he said you needed a bigger pond. Remember if your fish is not housed properly, it will not live as long as it should and may not grow as it should. Water quality may also become an issue. I think koi need at least 300 gal a fish. If my calculations are correct your pond is about 55 gallons now.

One thing that you will find on this board is that sometimes you get advice you don't want hear, going to another board that only tells you what you want to hear won't help you or your fish =\

Eta: My calculations were incorrect. Forgot to make them in inches. I shouldnt post when im tired =\

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Are you a member of the Malta Aquarist Society?.



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Ok than ... I'll search for help somewhere else.

No useful suggestions.

I thought you guys would do better!
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jasonpisani
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Are you a member of the Malta Aquarist Society, omavus?.



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um.. move them to a bigger tank/pond. for starters. but clean water, and koi food should grow them.
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