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I wurnder what would happen if you tried that now???????

Well, all I can say is that when you know better you do better.

This means that I was given a goldfish in a bowl. Then I learned that there is a better way and upgraded to a tank. I wasn't intentionally being ignorant or cruel. I just didn't know better. And once I learned to do better I...well, I did better.

That is all we can do isn't it? Our best.

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Thank koi keeper for that one, my fish was stunted before I had a chance to rescue it, because it was living for a month or two in a bowl. Stunting happens, and it happens early.

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Nice picture babel. I usued to do that with my water i would let it sit for a few days it work i think but when i found out about conditioner, i had to buy some. GOod luck

No matter how you spin it goldfish bowls will always be a myth.

Goldfish live for 20+ years

Goldfish never stop growing unless impeaded.

Goldfish are carp.

Goldfish get to 24"

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Folks we all make a mistake at some point in working with fish...

Guppy Man, I think what upset so many people was first the title; "The myth of goldfish bowls"

Then when you responded "I don't really care because I'm not a big fan of goldfish." it really hacked
people off.

Sometimes it is best to keep our mouth shut. Even though at times it is really hard. So folks lets breath deeply as Calla said, and move on...

For the most part we are a friendly and fun loving group of people to be with, but if something is hit upon on the wrong way, you can almost expect to be flamed at times...we are truelly love our fish, and want what's best for them...

Thanks Calla and Tim for jumping in...

Take care ya'll, it's time to go heat some frozen peas for the goldies' supper ...Heidi

Thanks Babel!!!


Last edited by hmlaird at 27-Nov-2004 23:44

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

For those who are intrested.My Grandma had a huge glass jar that she kept water in.As soon as we cleaned the bowl friday afternoon she filled the jar back up and let it stand till the following friday.No chemicals.As for the 6 inch goldfish I was just doing a simple search on goldfish care.A few sites said something about a type of "feeder" goldfish that grew to 6 inches when fully mature.But every site said that a minimum of 20 gallons is required.

Alright i get what your saying. And i thank you for it. Feeders may not grow as big anyway cause of how they are treated. Im allso intrested in this goldfish you are talking about. Do you have any pics of it? I've never heard of a goldfish that only gets 6in. Most people think that there small and stay small cause most of em dont last long enough before they die. I really dont know why everyones getting so excited back then, keeping goldfish in bowls was PERFECTLY normal cause know one knew any better. If he was to join a forum and say he had a few goldfish in a bowl 15 years ago people wouldnt say anything. Guppy man thank y0u for sharing your experience with us/me i have one ? for you how did you de chlorinate your water?? Was there de chlorinaters out there yet?? thanks and most important everyone needs to CHILL OUT. It/was his fish he cant do SQUAT about it now so chill out. You dont have to flame him or anything cause he oviously knows not to do it know.



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p.s. Guppyman welcome to fishprofiles!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah folks, there really has been a lack of tact on this thread. We need to respect that guppy_man agrees that goldies can't live in bowls. He was just relating his experience in the past.

Guppy_man, what kind of goldfish is it, that you've heard only grows to six inches? Do you have a species name, or is there a common name for it? As far as I've heard, most 'feeder' goldies reach over a foot and a half in length. I've never heard of one so small, so could you clarify?
Thanks

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guppie_man, i really do understand where you are coming from. you just tried to post something for information and so many people got nasty. dont worry it happened to me to. i really think some of you guys should try take into consideration that this form is to supply others with info, and if they dont like it, they can at least tell you in a nice way. as far as im concerned, find another form where people appreciate your info and arnt so nasty.

OK LISTEN I AM NOT SAYING THIS AGAIN,GOLDFISH CANNOT GO IN BOWLS!!!!! All I did was say that I had 2 in a bowl for 8 years and they died Do to the bowl breaking.
If they would have outgrew the bowl I would have either got something bigger or found them another home.Goldfish grow no matter what size of tank they are in.GOLDFISH CANNOT GO IN BOWLS!!!
This has nothing to do with my story,but my Grandma's friend has had a 55 gallon tank with goldfish for 35 years.(as I am told,I'm only 23)She has 3 calico's and 2 "feeders".The feeders are atleast 11 years old and are no more than 5 inches each.She has someone that takes care of her tank every week as she is like 77-78 years old.Her fish are very beautiful and very healthy.
I have done some research today and I have found out that there is a type of goldfish that are normally sold as feeders that only grow to 6 inches.It says that a 20 gallon long would house these perfectly.So 6 inches and 2 feet is a big difference.But even those CANNOT LIVE IN BOWLS!!!!

Bruce, the oranda(scroll down a bit). Orandas get quite large, but not as large as the common feeder. Since Bruce is way too large for a bowl, it is only logical that a common would also be way too big. So no, fancies and koi arent the only ones who need a tank

I'll do graffiti,
If you sing to me in French.

Hey hey hey, big deep breath.

You know, this is only now becoming a hot topic, years ago, it was perfectly acceptable to keep goldfish in bowls and they did live for quite a long time.

Think not cycling, think UGF, think overstocking - all were perfectly acceptable AND recommended years ago, and the fish survived.


8 years is a long time, and guppyman, you should be proud that you and your grandmother managed that in such conditions.


Now, I am not condoning the use of goldfish bowls, but as this is your personal experience, then thats something that you should be able to share.

Guppyman is also NOT CONDONING, he specifically states that, 2 or 3 times in fact. Nobody seems to have picked up on that.

Guppyman, I think people are getting grouchy because you seem to be recommending it, and as technology has progressed, we have learnt a whole lot more about how fish and tanks work. This is why we no longer recommend goldfish bowls. Saying its bull is kinda going to have that effect on people.

Now lets just calm down a little, think through this calmly. Without the internet, almost every last book will suggest putting goldfish in bowls, so really one cannot be blamed for thinking that it is acceptable or even preferable.

I know its all goldfish rights in here, i DO understand why you are all so upset, but as my mother says, you catch more flies with honey, so lets have a shot at getting the point across without making people get defensive, because thats not a terribly efficient way of educating (i know, i am useless at mathematics for that very reason, thanks heaps Ms Jesu!)




Last edited by Callatya at 26-Nov-2004 20:37

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Ok I'm not saying that everyone is wrong,but only fancy goldfish need big tanks or ponds.When I was like 9(I'm 23 now) my dad bought me 2 feeder goldfish and a bowl that was only about 1.5 gallons.I kept it at my Grandma's house.We did 100% water changes every friday.Those 2 goldfish lived for 8 years in that bowl and never grew more than 3 inches each.So as far as the myth goes that goldfish can't live in bowls I say it's Bull.I do tell people that it's not a good idea,but 8 years of life for 2 fish that only cost my father $1.00 was pretty good.I do agree however that any type of fancy goldfish or koi need a large tank or pond.

I don't know.I don't really care because I'm not a big fan of goldfish.Although I would love to have a koi pond.I wasn't trying to say everyone is wrong,because I know that a bowl is not the way to go.I was just sharing my story of my goldfish.I would never tell anyone that it would be ok to put any type of goldfish in a bowl.

Sure, they can live in a bowl, but do they thrive? Common goldies can get to 2 feet long and live 20+ years. So an 8 year-old 4 inch goldfish is most likely extremely stunted

I'll do graffiti,
If you sing to me in French.

So you equate price with life expectancy? Those fish could have lived for well over 30 years if you cared for them properly. Those fish died of stunting, their internal organs pushed against their frame until something failed and they died. How you can suggest that a death of that sort is acceptable is beyond me. Just because a fish only cost a dollar doesn't mean it's life is any less valuable then a fish that cost $500. I'm really trying to exercise some restraint here, so I won't say any more.

Since you are going to be mean about it,they died because for some reason the bowl broke overnight.Listen what did I just say about goldfish in bowls.DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

But why even post this if you don't want people to put them in bowls? Why not just let things be or even better tell people not do it? Someone could read this and get the idea that it's ok to have fish stunt in a bowl. It is not a myth that they can't live in bowls, it is a well known fact that they can. It's just that whole miserable existence thing that responsible fish keepers have a problem with.

so now I'm not a responsible fish keeper? I was 9 or did you not read that.I know better now.I have Many bettas,1 10 gallon,and 1 29 gallon.Plus birds,and ferrets.Don't say that I am not responsible.I have never had problems with fish.I was just sharing a story.For those who didn't understand what was said...GOLDFISH CANNOT LIVE IN BOWLS!!!! Please do not tell me what to post!!! I'm sure every fish keeper has lost fish for one reason or another!