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Johnny the Oranda Enthusiast Posts: 237 Kudos: 237 Votes: 82 Registered: 01-Mar-2005	Anyone have ranchu or lionhead goldfish?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
koi keeper Moderator Posts: 3203 Kudos: 2033 Votes: 240 Registered: 29-Dec-2001	Not currently but I have kept them in the past. Any specific questions? Hardest thing I have ever had to do was trim head growth Koi Empty chairs at empty tables, the room silent, forlorn.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
pugperson Fish Addict Posts: 877 Kudos: 953 Votes: 293 Registered: 16-May-2003	Ewwwwww...you have to trim their head growths? Thanks, if I ever get my pond, I won't get those.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
koi keeper Moderator Posts: 3203 Kudos: 2033 Votes: 240 Registered: 29-Dec-2001	Any fancy goldfish can require cutting if they have headgrowths which may interfere with vision or eating. Just part of caring for them. Koi Empty chairs at empty tables, the room silent, forlorn.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Johnny the Oranda Enthusiast Posts: 237 Kudos: 237 Votes: 82 Registered: 01-Mar-2005	Yea i dont think there good for a pond anyway, their really  e to swimbladder probs, but they sure are cute right now.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
koi keeper Moderator Posts: 3203 Kudos: 2033 Votes: 240 Registered: 29-Dec-2001	In the USA usually not. Our winters are too cold. Koi Empty chairs at empty tables, the room silent, forlorn.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Johnny the Oranda Enthusiast Posts: 237 Kudos: 237 Votes: 82 Registered: 01-Mar-2005	Yea its harder to keep a pond in the northeast.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Darth Vader Big Fish Posts: 338 Kudos: 334 Votes: 35 Registered: 05-May-2005	I have had a lionhead before and the "brain" didn't form until he was quite big 4inc or so and still i never had trim his growth as it grew very very slowly but orandas can have a big growth when their 1inc and i have one and i'm guessing he's due for a trimming soon:%):%) G.F.K
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
pugperson Fish Addict Posts: 877 Kudos: 953 Votes: 293 Registered: 16-May-2003	How would you go about trimming the growth, so that you don't harm the fish?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
koi keeper Moderator Posts: 3203 Kudos: 2033 Votes: 240 Registered: 29-Dec-2001	huh just saw this. I sedate the fish and use a pair of very sharp scissors. Preferrably those nail trimming/mustache trimming scissors that are tiny curved and sharp. Just snip and then I use a wound closer like johnsons that is water proof and way back when I used super glue. Stressful on the fish so watch it carefully and keep water conditions optimal Koi Empty chairs at empty tables, the room silent, forlorn.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Johnny the Oranda Enthusiast Posts: 237 Kudos: 237 Votes: 82 Registered: 01-Mar-2005	How do you sedate the fish?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Sharpix Enthusiast Posts: 241 Kudos: 123 Votes: 0 Registered: 01-Mar-2003	With clover oil or some kind of anesthetic. Its diluted on water, then the fish is transferred to water with a lower concentration of the anesthetic while doing the surgery. I was thinking of trimming some of the growth over the eyes, but my big oranda is about to die... he has Dropsy caused by medications treatments because a stubborn disease... It was hard so the medication was hard enough to heal him but he couldn't make it past this... He might pass away in less than two months...
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00
Johnny the Oranda Enthusiast Posts: 237 Kudos: 237 Votes: 82 Registered: 01-Mar-2005	Sorry to hear, my largest oranda died of dropsy, he had a fungl infection and i treated it and it went away then he got bloated and he was swimming upsidedown cause the fluid was pressing on his swim bladder i guess so i had to do him in.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:00


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