AquaRank.com

FishProfiles.com Message Forums

faq | etiquette | register | my account | search | mailbox
# FishProfiles.com Message Forums
L# Freshwater Aquaria
 L# General Freshwater
  L#  ? CO2 Gourmai?
 Post Reply  New Topic
Subscribe ? CO2 Gourmai?
judz
***
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 256
Kudos: 160
Votes: 5
Registered: 06-Jun-2005
male canada
i just added Co2 to my tank and my gourmai just seriously flipped out and died. i dont even know what happened the rest of my fish are just fine
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Report 
FRANK
 
**********
---------------
---------------
Moderator
Posts: 5108
Kudos: 5263
Votes: 1690
Registered: 28-Dec-2002
male usa us-colorado
Hi,
Since the rest of the fish are just fine, you could have
a couple of things to ponder.

First, it had medical problems and perhaps a coincidence.
Or, your shift in pH was too much for that fish.

When you add CO2 to a tank the pH always shifts, down.
How much of a shift, and how fast, depends upon how
aggressive you are in injecting the CO2.

What you should do before injecting CO2, is test your tank.
Know what your pH and KH is, determine what CO2 saturation
you want, and then begin injecting....slowly.

Take a couple of days to reach the new pH. Remember,
it is not necessarily the lower pH that will stress and
kill fish, it is the speed of the shift.

Just something to think about.

Frank


-->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<--
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
victimizati0n
**********
-----
Banned
Posts: 1217
Kudos: 1105
Votes: 31
Registered: 29-Apr-2004
male
the only thing I can think of is that there was alot of CO2 at the top of the tank (like built up from the cover) and there was no air, and your gourami couldnt breath.
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
judz
***
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 256
Kudos: 160
Votes: 5
Registered: 06-Jun-2005
male canada
i have Oxg bubbles in the tank so there is lots in the water however the method i use to put in Co2 is the CO2 Fizz Factory which injects it into a Co2 holding chamber which is an upside down container

air
_____________________________water level

water
___________
water |____Co2____| water
| water |

i hope that diagram helps. The gourmai went to the water level created by the containing of C02 then a few seconds later freaked
if that killed him how could anyone use this Co2 with out killing all of their top feeders?
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
judz
***
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 256
Kudos: 160
Votes: 5
Registered: 06-Jun-2005
male canada
wow when posted that diagram didnt turn out like it was meant to
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
LITTLE_FISH
**********
---------------
----------
***** Little Fish *****
Master of Something
Posts: 7303
Kudos: 1997
Votes: 670
Registered: 20-May-2005
male usa
Hi judz,

I am not an expert in CO2 injection and I have never used Jungle Labs Fizz Factory. I read on site that this tool is good for tanks up to 40G.

How big is your tank?
Did you follow all instructions, including any &#8220;before first use&#8221;, if applicable?
Is there a detailed explanation on how many tablets (or portion of one tablet) to add to a tank per gallon of water?

I assume that your dosage has something to do with it. What are your current PH and KH? If you don&#8217;t know them because you don&#8217;t have a test kit, please go out and get them as they are essential if you want to determine how much CO2 you have in your tank (well, if you don&#8217;t want to get the CO2 test solution anyway).

Ingo

PS: as I haven&#8217;t talked to you before, welcome to FP


Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
judz
***
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 256
Kudos: 160
Votes: 5
Registered: 06-Jun-2005
male canada
ive called the lfs and the company it was that the fish went to the wrong water level (the co2 bubble) and that killed him
so i have to use a different way of getting Co2 in the tank
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
fry
********
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 243
Kudos: 195
Votes: 3
Registered: 27-Jul-2004
male israel
sounds peculiar. fish sometimes surface the bell of CO2, but then they realize it isn't air, and go away to find the real surface.
i've seen it several times.

anyway, the water contains oxygen, so it shouldn't suffocate that easily. to suffocate from breething CO2 the fish has to keep breething from the "fake" surface till death, which is really improbable, IMO.

i'd also bet on the swift change in pH to cause the fish to die. do you know how hard your water is? it will determine how large is the pH shift, and so you must take that into consideration.
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
judz
***
-----
Enthusiast
Posts: 256
Kudos: 160
Votes: 5
Registered: 06-Jun-2005
male canada
but the co2 had been in there for a few days so the ph should have settled by then
Post InfoPosted 26-Jan-2006 11:58Profile PM Edit Delete Report 
Post Reply  New Topic
Jump to: 

The views expressed on this page are the implied opinions of their respective authors.
Under no circumstances do the comments on this page represent the opinions of the staff of FishProfiles.com.

FishProfiles.com Forums, version 11.0
Mazeguy Smilies