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xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	Oh i had a dwarf and he died yesterday i think of constipation because his stomach was big, i gave him peas but he didt eat it How about live barers becuase my lfs has tons of helthy sword, platies, sailfins and guppys. And the lfs is right next to me and there hardy and helthy. Last edited by xlinkinparkx at 06-Jul-2005 14:37 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
djtj Fish Master Posts: 1764 Kudos: 885 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Feb-2003	or, as the common man says: keyhole chichlid. True, another great choice, but rams are more common and look better IMO
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
stripedcichlid Fingerling Posts: 41 Kudos: 46 Votes: 127 Registered: 07-Mar-2005	or you could get a Cleithracara maronii depends though
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	ok so i'm only getting 2 so i should get 2males or 2femals right? 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
tankie Fish Addict Posts: 857 Kudos: 848 Votes: 230 Registered: 15-Mar-2005	for rams..definitely take a pair...if u intend to breed..if not...take 1 or 2 F.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	Just wondering do i need Male female or can i get 2males or 2femals? 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Ethan14 Big Fish Posts: 312 Kudos: 339 Votes: 18 Registered: 06-Jul-2005	I think a ram or 2 would do fine with your bioload. it would definately be maxing it out though. Just make sure the tank stays clean and has good filtration. Personally, I love rams. They are very attractive and full of personality. They are usually fairly peaceful but sometimes can be aggressive in some cases, such as when they breed.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	If you have any sugestion i'm still thinking. 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
djtj Fish Master Posts: 1764 Kudos: 885 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Feb-2003	2 is perfect, one fish by itself will get lonely you should look at rams on the profile section of this website. Bolivians are bigger and have a yellowish color. Germans are more petite and have a brighter, blueish color. Really, if you compare pictures, it is not too hard to tell the differences.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	OK good, and is there any distinctive look between the rams becuase i'm in montreal and its all french i dout it will have the english names cna u plz tell me what i am looking for. Also 2 would't be too much because there about 8cm each. 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
djtj Fish Master Posts: 1764 Kudos: 885 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Feb-2003	bolivian rams are hardy, but german rams are not. I'm not saying rams are bullet proof, but if you are responsible, you should do ok.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	Bovolian Ram seems nice but, are they hardy. I do often water changes and my nitrates and all are very good i'm just worried about the PH. 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
djtj Fish Master Posts: 1764 Kudos: 885 Votes: 49 Registered: 20-Feb-2003	Odd, I see absolutely no reason why you can not have a pair of bolivian rams. 2 rams and 7 neons will not overstock a tank at all. I don't know about the wood shrimp, they're big for inverts. But, I wouldn't have a problem with it. As for rams eating neons, the two species of fish share a symbiotic relationship in nature. The rams use the neons as guides. If the neons are active, the rams will assume the water is safe from predators. Thus, I would not think that the rams would eat the neons at all!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
gauntlet Enthusiast Posts: 240 Kudos: 277 Votes: 8 Registered: 21-Jan-2004	Thought about badis badis? or maybe a pair or one male Apistogramma cacatuoides? Or almost any Apistogramma provided it doesn't exceed your fish per gallon rule.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	Mabey a male swordtail. 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
xlinkinparkx Fish Addict Posts: 521 Kudos: 353 Votes: 2 Registered: 23-Apr-2005	Well my dwarf gourami died i dont know the cause he seemed extremy healthy. Well now i have 7 neons and a wood shrimp what can i add(mabey a chidild?) open to suggestions. editorry i mean cichlid Last edited by xlinkinparkx at 06-Jul-2005 07:33 Last edited by xlinkinparkx at 06-Jul-2005 07:41 10gallon: 8neons 5gallon: 1betta 1oto 2platys
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
moondog Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002	cichlids will always have some degree of aggression in them, but there are some species which are much more community friendly than others. rams and angels are always used as community fish, but they still have the potential to be aggressive fish. i still like the idea of a dwarf gourami, but the other suggestions are also good "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
tribblehappy Enthusiast Posts: 221 Kudos: 283 Votes: 41 Registered: 23-Jun-2003	Bolivian rams are very easy to care for and not too sensitive to water chemistry. I have a female in a ten gallon tank with a male betta and he's fine, so I don't think they're too aggressive, either. I'm not sure if I'd put one in with neons, but since they have smallish mouths I don't think he could do much more than nip them, and he'd have to be hungry to try. German/blue rams are a little more finicky. But you could try a bolivian. I'm so adjective, I verb nouns!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
illustrae Fish Addict Posts: 820 Kudos: 876 Registered: 04-May-2005	The shrimp add virtually nothing to your bio-load, so don't think that if you remove 3 shrimp that you can add 3 fish. 4 shrimp equal about the same as one small fish as far as waste production. Corys are also schooling fish like your tetras, so i don't think you have enough room for enough of them. The cherry barbs are a good idea, or some african dwarf frogs (maybe 2 of them) would be neat to have. Hoping that there must be a word for everything I mean...
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:58
Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004	I personally think a school of cories will overstock your tank. Your original idea of a centerpiece fish is probably best. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean
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