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hi all, please help me out:

I had a 10cm Angel Fish, really smart and activ (he used to feed from my hand). I tough he migh be a little lonelly in the fishtank i bought him a mate.

So I put a small and young Angel fish with him, it all seem to go right and the two started to swim together... but 2 days latter the younger died and the samme happend to the older one a few days latter.

I dind't notice anything wrong with the big Angel-fish, he was heating well and all, nothing in my aqua could warm him... So i've started thinking about what could went wrong... In the same day I've put the younger Angel Fish on the aqua i've notice that the water as a bit acid, ph 5,5 or so. I quickly correct it has i have done beforte to the usual 6 - 6,5.

I don't know if there was something wrong with the ph plus product or it was some kind of sickness... alas my two Angel Fishes died in just a few days.
All my other fishes (corys, clown loachs, etc) are 100% fien and eating well. I've check the water again and it has the normal ph (6)

Welcome to FP

Couple of questions.

What size tank is this? How did you go about acclimating them to your super low PH? What is your tap water PH before and after 24 hrs (not in the tank). How long has this tank been up and running? What are your other parameters? Ammonia? Nitrite? Nitrate?

What ever product your using to up your PH is obviously like a lot of other products out there. To put it bluntly, they are crap.

There are a few that consist of liquid baking soda. These actually work and continue to work. Dosing every couple of days is not needed.

You can use regular baking soda. Just put a teaspoon in and wait a few hrs. Test your PH. Add another teaspoon and wait a few more hrs. Test your PH.

Continue like this until your PH is in the desired level. Now dosing the tank will only need to be done when you do any water changes.

It will take some practice to get the needed amount per gallon right. But trial and error will provide all the info you need. Just keep a log so you know what did work and what didn't.

If your PH is still drooping then there is more going on here than acidic water. Your tank could be crashing. But lets not jump the gun on that one. Answer my questions, and I and others will be better equipped to answer your question.

Stab in the dark:

You added a young angel to another angels realm. Angels are extremely territorial.

If he had no one else competing with him for territories then he had prob laid claim to the entire tank.

He prob picked on the smaller angel until stress killed it. And the stress from his aggression could have lead to his death.

HTH

I got a 100litres tank, runnig for more than a year. I've just lay a coffe spon of ph+ corrector on the aqua and in the next day the water was nice again (and stills nice after 5 days)

I got the older Angel for more than 6 months, well I did not saw one angel pick the other but my older angel used to get stressed if I approach the aqua quickly or with the lights off.

ps: I though my gouramis were more territorial

Smaug

My question is what else do you have in the tank?
I had several SAE in with mine and lost all my Angels on making some inquies I was informed that some SAE will remove the natural slime off the angles apprently they give off this slime to attract the opposite sex for mating.
I am not sure if both sexes do this or only one.

Keith

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sorry man, what's a SAE?

in my aqua i got angels, oscars and some tyger barbs...It is decorated with old batterys and tin cans.

Okey now seriouly I don't have any aggressiv fish, only gouramies, corys and clown loachs.

I now think it was a desiese cose the pet shop has his angel fish aqua empty...

That tank is really way too small for Oscars let alone more than one or 2 angels.

We still need you to get those test results that I asked for in my first response.

Angels are sensitive to ammonia, and looking at your stock list. Adding the new angel could have cause a small spike in your ammonia.

Oscars are very very messy fish. I am quit certain that having them in a 29 Gal tank has your bioload maxed out. And you are actually going to cause the Oscar harm in the long run. Healthy Oscars should grow at a rate of about 1 inch a month until they hit adult size, 12-14 inches. A 55 gallon tank is the minimum size tank for 1 Oscar to live a healthy life.

Not keeping you Oscar in a tank large enough will in the end result in the fish being stunted, this not only causes the fish pain, but it also greatly shortens the fish's life.

If you do not have the test kits needed to test your water. Take a sample of it to your Fish Store. Most of them will test your water for free.

Please get back to us with those reading.

Edit:

It is decorated with old batteries and tin cans.

Sorry I missed that. I strongly recommend you get the batteries and the tin cans out of that tank.

The cans might rust, and the Batteries can leak acid into your tank. This would not only explain your low PH but will most def kill all of your fish.

In general, these are some of the things that should never be placed in a tank.

Last edited by shannen at 16-Mar-2005 10:02

I was .....errrrr joking

sorry

no problem...


still need those test resluts tho

If you have unstable pH and you are using powders to correct it I think this may be a factor to consider. Big changes in pH can cause your fish to get sick. If the pH in your tank went from 5.5 to 6.5 when you added the powder then I would almost bet money on this being the cause! Maybe the angels were weaker health wise than the others and hence died.

As a side note, those powders, pH up, etc cause more trouble than they are worth because they dont buffer the water permanently. Check you KH and GH and post results back and we can find you an alternative to the powders.

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my ph is now 6,5 - 7 , and my water is soft.

My other fishes are looking great, but about the powder i supose there are some natural means to correct the ph, i've heard about baking soda or coal, is this right?

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