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Calilasseia
 
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Hey Cali,

Sorry to hear about your losses.

Just how new is new? You probably already thought of this, but when I hear of new fish dying with no outward signs as to why, my first instinct is immediately to say it's some kind of acclimation shock, be it from pH, temperature, or what have you.
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EditedEdited 03-Dec-2009 02:12
ITs been close to a week- right??? i think its been to long for those...

wish I had some answers for you Cali'..Im clueless

Edit to add- Hoave you daone anything- a water change, ect...??? Something that could change something in the tank??
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Water change was performed 2 days prior to their arrival, so if the water change was going to cause problems, it would have caused problems with the SAEs. They're fine though. So I know it isn't the water company messing about with aluminium sulphate again, because that would have wiped out the fish in both tanks, because both tanks had water changes at the same time.

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Hi,
While it could have been the water company as before,
this time I suspect the question was relative to any
differences between the water at the LFS and the water
in your tanks that the fish are accustomed to? High
nitrate, off pH, etc?

Like Joe mentions, this kind of situation would indicate
differences in the water between the two locations and
and/or a problem in the acclimation process.

Frank

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If I'd had problems acclimatising fish from that location before, I'd be tempted to agree, Frank, but this is the first time I've had a disaster like this happen to stock from that location in something like 5 years of dealing with them. I got my SAEs from them originally, and they settled in without too much trouble, I've had Panda Corys from them that settled in nicely, and I've had Flag Fish from them that settled in nicely too.

Needless to say, this one is a serious puzzle. And I'm wondering if my last remaining Arulius Barb turned psycho and saw off the others while I wasn't watching, in much the same way as my Beckford's Pencil Fish turned into the characin version of Melanochromis chipokae once they settled in. Something weird has happened here, and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out a solution to this one.

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I did a google search, all I could find was that might help is as follows.

1- the need highly aerated water
2- they dont do well if not between 66-76 degrees F
3- If you ended up with more males than females they can fight like crazy 1m/3-4 f prefered ratio
4- They like lots of room, 40-55 galls is prefered

my guess not knowing tank specifics is either aration and temp, or not enough room, and to many males..

Considering you still have 1, that is doing fine- Id guess you had to many males, and not enough room.
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Ah. Looks like number 3 may well have caught me out. Because it was a bit difficult to differentiate between the sexes, and I also assumed that during the juvenile stage, they wouldn't exhibit much sexual dimorphism anyway.

Oh lovely. Looks like I ended up with another batch of "peaceful shoaling fishes" that ended up doing the Melanochromis chipokae number, like my psychotic Pencil Fishes did a while back.

Won't be getting those again for a while.

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yea id get odesa barbs they are cool fish and a freind of mine got his to breed in his 55 gallon heavily planted tank.
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