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Normal eggs should look transparent. Any discoloured eegs should be removed and trashed.

I'd leave 'em anyway, no harm in seeing what happens.

Thx mate ! See my other thread about it please. Further developpement there and more questions.

Cheers

Sponge

About the fry getting stuck to the sponge, you probably don't need to worry. Fry aren't the weakest thing (though they definately aren't the strongest) and they can tell when they are getting too close, the problem with it open is they can get sucked INTO the filter and can't get out. It is much easier to unstick from a sponge with a weaker intake than to swim back down a narrow tube pulling up. Also, the sponge should cut down on the force at which water is taken into the filter. (understandable right?...my brains outta whack today). So the fry are probably not going to get stuck to the sponge and die. But if you do see them getting close, just keep an eye on 'em to see. And of course if you DO end up finding bodies stuck, you might just have to use a good old fashioned sponge filter.

Other than that I have no other advice, but good luck and hope to see some sort of good turnout from this.

By the way, you aren't bothering anyone by asking so many questions. It's what the forums are for.

[edit] meh...can't spell

Last edited by Tetra Fan at 21-Dec-2005 19:37

Sorry to post again but I REALLY NEED HELP FROM ANYONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCE. PLEASE REFER TO MY LAST POST ON PAGE 1.

Thx all and sorry to bother you with this again.

Sponge

Banana : I will do my best to provide a photo but I don't have a digital camera. I might get my neighbour to come over and take a few pics.

Cheers !

Sponge

I can't help since I have no experience with this kinda stuff. Sounds exciting, though. Can you post pictures of the incubation tank? Sounds like an interesting project.
Good luck.

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Cake or death?

UPDATE - He is moving now. He wiggled as I approached my finger. He is somewhat lethagic like Sir said. It is no more attached to anything. Now the BIG question is :

Do I feed it baby brine shrimps or not ?

Other eggs have black dot in them so I believe they will hatch soon.

About the filter section and equipment, remember that there is a powerhead in the incubation section that helps circulate water between the 2 sections. Although I used a large sponge, I am concerned about fry getting sucked on the sponge and prevented to escape. Am I worrying too much ?

Please note that I don't know what the heck I'm doing, so please, volunteer ANY info / tricks you can give me, however insignificant or obvious you might think it would be to you.

Cheers and thank you so much to the people that are helping me. You are the best !

Sponge :%)
PS : This is soooooo nervewrecking ! But sooo much fun as well.

Last edited by Sponge_Bob at 21-Dec-2005 13:59

I should think that the fry would be okay. It is in a stage right now where it's called a "wiggler", because they remain attached to something (substrate, plants, equipment, glass) and barely move except for wiggling. They use up their yolk sac during this phase, and don't need supplemental feeding. Since the fry won't be moving near the filter, it should be just fine for now.

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And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."

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Upon removing the fungussed eggs, my wife spotted a fry. It's about 1mm in diameter by about 2mm long. It seems attached to some invisible thing at the bottom. It is not moving but I can defenately see eyes and tail. Unfortunately, it is NOT in the incubator section but rather in the filtration part.

WHAT DO WE DO ??? Should I attempt moving it with an eye-dropper ?

Please, swift reply would be appreciated.

Sponge

Thx Calla ! Will do that RIGHT AWAY. You are great !

REMOVE ALL FUNGUSSED EGGS!

All eggs with fuzz out out out and waterflow around eggs increased if possible. Fungus tends to spread through a whole batch, so if you can take out the diseased eggs ASAP, you give the healthy eggs a better chance.

For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

Update - Upon getting up, I rushed in the kitchen to see the "incubation" tank only to discover that most of the eggs are now covered with white fuzz. Looks bad. Mind you, a couple of eggs are still transparent and no fuzz on them. I dropped a few drops of Meth Blue in hopes that the fuzz might die off. I know, I'm dreaming in technicolor 3D.

Sponge

Last edited by Sponge_Bob at 21-Dec-2005 07:30

Fallout : I think so too. Thanks for your opinion, I feel less alone in this mysterious adventure. I never, ever, had eggs in the past in none of my 7 tanks. It's really my first experience and I am quite nervous about it... so is my wife. We haven't got a clue as what to expect.

Anyway, I'll keep posting updates as things develop...or not.

Cheers !

Sponge

Hi,

Discovered some eggs on my powerhead in my Fancy Goldfish tank. Any advice by experienced people welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

Sponge

Last edited by Sponge_Bob at 21-Dec-2005 16:33

Update - Eggs have, for the most part, turned white and are no more transparent. I wonder if this is a good sign or not.

Sponge

Thx everyone. For a moment, I thought I was being ignored for my somewhat colourful way of expresing myself in other threads. My appologies to all for saying that you ignored me. I'll slap myself later, ok ?

Calla : Yep, baby brine shrimps are the things I was refering to. As for the other stuff you mentionned, thanks a bunch. Will look it up.

Other posters : I googled the answers I found like most of you suggested. You have to be careful though with what you find on the web. Always double or triple check the info just to make sure it is valid.

In general : Hum... not much people with experience with goldies in here. Hard to belive but hey, no one is perfect ! just kidding. I have good experience with GF so I might be able to help with them. As you know, I don't, well did not have any experience in breeding the lil' critters but that is changing now.

Update : I made a contraption, a special setup if you will in a 10 gal tank. I took a piece of plexiglass and made some 3/8" holes in it, to form 3 rows that span across the whole aquarium width. It's slightly oversized so it stays in place on it's own. The piece of plexiglass is about 10" high so it acts not only as a divider but also a "splash-guard". The aquarium is therefor seperated in 2 sections : 1 for filtration and heating, the otner for housing the eggs and a return pump.

The filtration part lodges an Aqua-Clear 200 fitted with a flexible tube to reach the water which is only 5" high. At the end of that tube, I secured a small sponge with a tie-wrap to act as a barrier...don't want to suck anything else but water in there. In the same section, a 50 watt submersible and reliable heater set to 72°F.

The "incubation" section lodges a small powerhead fitted with a big sponge at the bottom back corner of the tank. The outlet is fitted with flexible tubing that runs acrros and over the plexiglass divider and returns the water in the filtration section. The reason for such a pump and returning it to the other section is to create a very light circulation between the 2 sections insuring adequate filtration of all the water and avoiding "stagnant zones" in the incubation section.

I hope this setup will be adequate and work well for this special "delicate" application.

I will keep you all updated on the progress, if any.

Cheers !

Sponge

Last edited by Sponge_Bob at 20-Dec-2005 06:00

Lets just stay on the topic of goldfish.

SIDE NOTE: Sponge, the forums are have not much traffic... I've been seen that the last 6 months or so. I used to come here daily, then i come sometimes just for lurking but i don't read much as before...

It might be because my fishes are somehow happy withouth any serious problems...

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As for information, try to use google or yahoo or a good search engine.... there's LOTS of information about this and diseases, too... When something is more specific I get here and the question is solved, but for other things, google it.

People here is very very friendly, and they usually help people even after repying a hundred times the same question. And as always, there are times when it seems to be no one helping out... in those cases, help yourself and don't waste time on asking

ohhhkaaaay.

That should read BABY brine shrimp. The young will be too small to take adult brine shrimp. Also try daphnia, vinegar eels, microworms and later, grindal worms, whiteworms and chopped black or bloodworms

We don't have many goldfish hobbyists on the site and those who are around aren't usually on all day and can easily miss posts.(LittleMouseling, Koi, and a few others) 3 hours wouldn't be long enough to catch them if they only come on once a day.

Glad you found your answer.

Do a search for goldfish fry, both Teebee and Cory_Di had spawns in the last 2 years and there is some very good info on what they did



For animals, the entire universe has been neatly divided into things to (a) mate with, (b) eat, (c) run away from, and (d) rocks. - Terry Pratchett

u would be suprised, that alot of people dont come on here everyday probly half the members that have accounts either, dont come here anymore, are banned, or are just drifters, people who soak up information, without posting, plus, some people dont know about goldfish.

im sorry no one could help you in time though, but atleast you looked it up too, most people dont