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Ok for those who have been watching, I have finally finished a divider for my 10 gallon so that I can keep 2 bettas in 1 tank (yes, they will have plenty of room I know

But, I kind of forgot the heater...ok I didn't forget it, it's sitting right here beside me What I forgot was a place to put it...it is submersible...that isn't the problem...

Imagine a cube/box I have the top, back, and bottom pieces, and one going down the middle, all of it is plastic canvas so it is cuttable, but I sewed it together with fishing line, and didn't do knots at every "pull" so random cutting won't work...could I put it on one end of the tank? There is one half that is a bit larger than the other...would this work? Someone help soon, I want to go to bed, but have sworn I'm not going to bed till Lucky, and Surprise are both taken care of tonight...tanks heidi

EDIT:I'm thinking that I could cut a whole in the canvas in the back, but am worried that it might melt the canvas (I've actually touched one of my heaters while it was on) And for anyone as crazy as I'm beginning to feel tonight, never lick the suction cups for the heaterthey taste disgusting hml

Last edited by heidi at 28-Mar-2005 00:57

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

Hi,
I thought I saw a thread on your dividers earlier and
replied suggesting that the divider be stretched from the
front of the tank to the back. I also suggested that the
tanks filter draw from one end and return at the other.
That would cause a flow from one side to the other carrying
with it the warm water (I'd put the heater at the return
end).

I assume you are using a mesh that is at least an 1/8 inch
square.

If you don't have the tanks filtration set up as I suggested
you might want to run an airstone at one side. That "may"
provide some circulation to the opposite side of the mesh.
(doubtful).

Frank


Last edited by FRANK at 28-Mar-2005 08:47

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Yes, Frank I saw that post...and thanks for posting again, I've gone ahead with the UGF so that filtration is on both sides, I'm about ready to call it a night and give up...but really want to have at least lucky situated tonight, so tomorrow all I have to tend to is Surprise (he's at Leslie's for now)

Heiid

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

Hi,
It seems a small tank. I have a 30G that I have only one
uplift tube for the UGF and the other side is capped off.
You might try the same and run the return to the other side.
Frank


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Hi again Frank, here is a picture of what it looks like right now...I know the top is looking a bit flopsy, I've got that covered as soon as it is fully set up, right now it's sitting on Leslie's laptop...thanks so much for you help...heidi



heidi attached this image:


"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

heidi

If I understand your problem correctly. Is it you want to have the heater so that it is in both sides of the division?

It could still be at one "end" or "middle" and use an Air stone to circulate the water as Frank sugested . If you have the heater close to the middle and the air stone next to the heater it should work OK.

Does this help?

Thank you for posting this topic, my old forgetful brain not working too well lately. I canged my 15%+ water this morning, seven hrs ago. Yes I forgot to turn the two heaters back on. Room Temp about 17-22c temp went down about 3C.
Thank you Heidi.

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No problem Keith, and yes you understand the problem. But here is the other problem, where do I cut the plastic? And would the heater by chance melt the plastic? I totally forgot planning for it while sewing it together, and don't want the whole thing to unravel on meMy fingers couldn't go another round with the fishing line and needle tonight or tomorrow for that matter...heidi

EDIT:how about right down the middle in the front? Would it be that bad of an eye sore do ya'll think? I'm thinking yes, but don't know where else to put it at this point, unless I can put it on the far left hand side, and just monitor the heater closelytalk about a night...hml

Last edited by heidi at 28-Mar-2005 01:39

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

If the current from the uplift tubes in that setup you just illustrated is powerful enough, having the heater on one side won't matter. The water will still warm fairly evenly, as there will be continuous flow throughout the aquarium.

Depending upon what fishes you intend to keep in that aquarium, you could guarantee sufficient flow by using powerheads on the uplift tubes. Even at a low speeed setting, they would generate more than sufficient current to guarantee even distribution of heat. In fact, using two powerheads at low speed on that setup would ensure that your undergravel filter was operating very efficiently indeed, even at relatively low speed settings. Of course you would still need to gravel vac to prevent compactification and dead spots, but the water flow would be sufficient to ensure that a lot of oxygen reached the filter. Which of course is what you want!

Pick up a pair of AquaClear 201 powerheads or equivalent (I use one of these in the Panda Fun Palace&#8482;, and it only ever needs to be on 1/3 of maximum power to filter very efficiently indeed) and set them at a low speed setting. That would provide sufficient current to keep the filter running nicely, guarantee even heat distribution, but at a low speed setting would not create too much current for fishes that like slower moving water such as Bettas (which I take it are the intended inhabitants of this setup).

Hope this helps!


Last edited by Calilasseia at 28-Mar-2005 07:11

Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002

You could get two heaters

Or fabricate yourself a little sump and put it in there

Last edited by Fallout at 28-Mar-2005 07:12

That picture looks very nice. I was thinking of doing the same thing myself, and that picture really helped! Thank you! Are the top pieces of plastic canvas sewed on to the rest of it?

Please post pictures after you've placed your fish in, because I want to see!

Why dont you try filling the tank 3/4 full, placing the heater on the far one side- with a thermomter at each end of the tank, then give the tank a day or 2 to see how much of a temp difference there is between the 2 sides- I really doubt it would be much- a 10 gal is a small amount of water. ince it stablizes- it should stay pretty accurate.

oh- id also put plants down each side of the divider. I had a similar set up and one of the 2 was pretty aggressive and would constantly flair at the other- the more peaceful of the 2 stayed on the far side of the tank hiding behind a plant....

Yeah woke up this morning, found Heidi in the recliner, and the finished tank on my laptop.

PS Keith, I had the plan C, Heidi manufactured it.

Hi ifancyfish, sorry it's taken this longprobably too late even? Anyways yes the top pieces are sewn on and each creates a little door if you would...It has turned out really well and keeps them happy...only once have i had trouble and that was when one of the guys decided he didn't like his portion of the tank, and tried to swim to the other side by swimming behind the plastic canvasI don't think he was really stuck, but it scared me anyways...i do the water changes every other week from the opposite side...Then I only fill it up about 2/3-3/4 of the way...I've decided that I am going to have to get a piece of glass cut because of evaporation, but it is still working out fine for me...I'll try to get some pics up of the set up when i do the next cleaning...heidi

"I've got a great ambition to die of exhaustion rather than boredom." Thomas Carlyle

*lost*

what was the issue with having the heater over one side?

I heated a 2' with 3 glass dividers with a single heater in one compartment with only 1*C variance, plastic canvas should have been a cinch?

piccies of the finished tank?

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