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	Purpose of Blue crystals?
r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	hey there this may seem as a dum question but do blue crystals need to be added to adjust hardness? from what i have heard.. not many ppl use it? how often should it be added?? r0b3y
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	What kind of "blue crystals"? Is it a product or something? I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	yea its a product found at an lfs.. my lfs recommends it to all customers.. its something u add along side your normal conditioner and dosage it a teaspoon for every 10 litres...
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Natalie Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003	Um, well 99% of people don't have to worry about the hardness of their water, so the LFS is probably just trying to make a few bucks and sell unecessary crap to people. I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	The blue crystals are rock salt and epsom salts with a few drops of meth blue added to make them blue. I used to make them when I worked at my lfs. They do raise your GH but you dont need them unless you have soft water. Melbourne water is very soft so you might find them useful if you are in Melb. Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	yea i'm in melb.. thats probly why.. what should GH be on for angels, gouramis etc.. .. do the crystals bring it up or down?? thx
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	It brings it up. Anywhere between 4-6 degrees is good. Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	So what's the value of the GH for Melbourne tap water then Lindy? Only if it's below 2°GH it's probably ideal for breeding Glowlight Tetras, especially if the carbonate hardness is low. Only Glowlight fry are very sensitive to carbonates for the first 7 days or so of life, and need gradual adjusting to increasing levels. I have a TFH back number which covers this aspect of Glwolight spawning and fry rearing in some detail. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	I get zero readings for both KH and GH from my tap water. According to the water company it is .05 of a degree. Its good in that we can adjust the waters hardness fairly easily. Much easier than trying to soften it. Last edited by Lindy at 26-Apr-2005 01:09 Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	That low? Wow. I'd like to think that this was a reflection of water purity in your area, but then you'll probably reply with less than delightful information about nitrate eutrophication from agricultural runoff It would be interesting to find out just how pure your water is. Only from the brief description thus far, it sounds as if you have water that is good enough to breed Discus in without resorting to an RO unit. If so, I think I'll emigrate Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	No nitrate in our water either. If I can find the website I'll post it, it provides test results for lots of minerals and compounds in our water. I recently lost all my bookmarks though so I cant promise anything. Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	If I become a reef keeper, I think I'll emigrate ... your water sounds amazing ... no nitrates, precious little mineral content ... has your local water company stumbled upon the Fountain of Eternal Youth by any chance? Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
hollywood Fingerling Posts: 34 Kudos: 33 Votes: 24 Registered: 25-Feb-2005	Calilasseia, the water in Canberra Australia is very soft also 0.07 according to the water company and my test kits read 0 also Last edited by hollywood at 28-Apr-2005 06:14
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	If they have found The Fountain they are keeping it a secret from us Cali! The only downside to our good water is that there isnt alot of it. Most of Aus in on water restrictions. Melbourne has been put on permanent water restrictions and there are $$ incentives for people to install rain tanks and to use grey water(laundry) on their gardens. Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:52


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