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hey there.. i have some fish in mind.. i dont know exactly how many gallon my tank is.. it's 3ft(92x35x45cm).... the tank is new and still waiting for it to cycle..
it has a aqua clear 200 and undergravel filter..

just want to get a list in mind so i know what to slowly add in the next few months.. also i would like to know wat best would be for cycling that i can keep in there..

the fish that i have in mind are:
- Harlequin Rasboras(6 or more)
- Bronze corys(6)
- BN's(2)
- Pearl Gouramis(2 or 3)
- German or Bolivian rams(2)
- cherry barbs(2)
- giant danios (cycling?)(4)
- yoyo loachs(4)

its to many but just wanted to noe wat to add or wat to remove from list..

r0b3y

Last edited by r0b3y at 26-Jan-2005 01:36

Last edited by r0b3y at 05-Mar-2005 03:39

The tank is 38.?? according to the site calculators. Let's call it a 40g. From your list I'd stock it with:
6 harleys
6 corys OR 1, maybe 2 BN OR yoyo loaches
1 pearl gourami (centerpiece)
2 German blue rams
a school of cherry barbs (they're ok in pairs but i think they'd look good as a school)
giant danio cyclers

I wouldn't put all those bottom feeders in the tank, as it is not all that large and they may end up having to compete for food. Personally I'd use the danios for cycling then return them. They'd be crowded in a 40g tank with that stock. They're very active and need lots of swimming room. Also, feeder guppys or rosy red feeders are a good cheap way to cycle.

HTH

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Last edited by gartenzwerfe at 26-Jan-2005 01:28

Unless you've got a reverse flow powerhead with that UGF, and no plans to ever plant it or use a sand substrate I wouldnt put the UGF in....but that just may be my intense dislike of them steming from the fact that I had to pull some out of a used tank I bought and it turned into a nightmare .

For cycling, I'd jump start it by running the filter on an established tank. If the 200 is too much for the 13 (and I have a feeling it would be ) just place the foam inserts in the established tank for 3-4 weeks while you're working out the stock ect of the new tank.

I would pick either corys or loaches as the bottom feeder and have a nice large school, rather than two smaller schools. Glancing over the list, I didnt see any that I'd consider cycle hardy, the giant danios would be your best bet. I'm with the suggestion of renting some zebras from your LFS to cycle with. You can also do fishless cycling with a sprinkle of fish food combined with the seeded filter I described earlier.

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Last edited by Babelfish at 26-Jan-2005 15:04

thanks for the replies.. with the aqua clear i'm useing 2 foam inserts .. so i'll let one sit in te 13 gal for a few weeks for now..

i'm not sure on a cycling fish.. i would like a fish that i can just leave in there.. i was thinking white clouds but they like a much colder water temp.. ne ideas of a school of fish that i can use to cycle and leave in the tank.. if not i might as well rent sum zebras..

r0b3y

I've heard (don't hold me accountable like some people do) that WCMM's can survive temps into the 90's *consults handy dandy site calculator* so in the 30's for you people.
Not quite sure I've seen them used for cycling though.

I think that if you seed your filter pads for 3-4 weeks on your established tank and start the new stock slowly with the hardier ones (go with the danios first) you should be okay .

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White Clouds would be just fine. I have a large school of white clouds, they have cycled 3 tanks now, a 10, a 25, and a 90, and have happily lived at 76-80F for their entire lives. They were born at the pet store to parent fish kept in tropical tanks and never have been in cold water. A very adaptable fish, the white cloud is capable of adapting to most temperatures and water conditions. A great cycler, they are hardy and can withstand cycling conditions with ease. I have lost 2 over the past year, I think because of Old Age. (they were huge and pale like old fish gone gray )
I like your stock, I think the YoYos or Corys would be enough though. I would say this would work:
6-8 Harlequin Rasboras
6-8 White Cloud Mountain Minnows
2 BN Pleco (try to get a male and a female)
2 Rams - I recommend Bolivians, they are larger, easier to keep, and have so much personality! Dont worry on gender, even males are fine with each other.
1-2 Pearl Gouramis (try to get a male and a female or get just 1)
Cherry Barbs your choice or not, 2-4 would be fine, but if you choose some white clouds, you may choose to leave them out.
But for your bottom guys, because rams are also bottom feeders, and because BN eat so much, I would say go with a bunch of corys say 8-10 Bronze Corys
OR Go with 4-6 YoYo loaches. Remember Bronze Corys are a larger cory species, I have seen ones in excess of 4 inches. YOYO loaches are also a solid 4-5 inch fish. I would recommend one or the other, but not both. A 40g just doesnt have the space for 2 BN, 2 Rams, 6 corys and 4 yoyos. Pick what you like best. I reccomend the loaches. I am a huge loach fan, and find their behaviour and fun level is just sky high. Great fish, the epitomy of Lazyness though!
Good Luck Robey. Let us know what you decide.

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hey there... thanks for the reply it was a great help..
this is what i'm going for..
for cycling i am going to rent some zebras probly about 4 - 6 to help with the the cycling precess... then i will slowly add the following..
6 Bronze Corys
6-8 Harlequin Rasboras
1 Pearl Gourami
2 Blue Rams
and then adding a school either 8 neon or cardinial tetras.. is this possible?
wat else should be added/removed?? any suggestions?

r0b3y

You could add the 8 neons or cardinals. I would recommend cards cuz they are a tiny bit bigger and more colorful, but I love neons as well! (have 6)
I think your stocking list looks really good.


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update: hey since this thread.. i have started stocking my tank and my choices have change many times ..
at the moment in the tank i have:
1 male pearl gourami
4 harle rasboras
4 panda corys
will be adding boliv rams tomorro

can anyone give me some good ideas o what else to add.. i would like to add some more pandas.. but they are hard to find .. i tried introducing a new pearl but the original one got very aggressive and i had to seperate..
i've had a few fish in mind maybe congo tetras, other types of gourami, rainbows etc

really confused on what to get.. but justsomthing really eye catching.

r0b3y