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r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	hey all.. okay so i got the fishless cycling thing happening.. but stupids me added a tad too much ammonia .. now it is reading at like 8.. is this a bad thing.. yesterday after the 1hr test(was reading around 8) i added amtrite which is like cycle. i did a 10% water change and there was minimal difference in the readings.. wat should i do.. should i just leave it?.. i have ac amrid media.. should i put that it my filter? r0b3y
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	Amtrite is not like cycle. It neutralises ammonia and will most likely give a false reading. Stop using amtrite and dont use any filter media used for ammonia. These products arent necessary if you are fishless cycling as there are no fish that will be harmed by spiking ammonia and nitrite. Good luck! Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
sham Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004	I fishless cycled 2 tanks. An ammonia reading above around 6-8 will stall your cycle. Do a 50% water change to get rid of the amtrite and excess ammonia. If things still don't test right then I would do another water change to dilute the amtrite even more. It won't remove ammonia from your water only make it less toxic to fish which doesn't matter because you have no fish. Products like amtrite usually mess up the reading on most ammonia test kits.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000	how would ammonia stall the cycle?
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Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	how would ammonia stall the cycle? Actually, ammonia can even be harmful to the bacteria at high enough concentration, or so my sources I have read state. -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
sham Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004	If your ammonia or nitrites go too high(usually off the chart) you can sit for weeks or a month and never see a change in numbers. A lot of other people I was talking to had the same thing happen and there's mention of it in one of the fishless cycling articles. It seems to especially happen if your ammonia goes really high before you get much of a nitrite reading or the same with high nitrite and no nitrates yet. That's what I experienced and heard. As to why exactly it happens I really don't know.
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Fallout Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000	interesting.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	update: okay did 50% water change.. and about 2 hrs later i tested it and hardly no difference?? wat should i do.. .. should i add in amrid or sumthing.. do full water change and restart.. or let it sit and monitor it for like a week.. r0b3y
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
Lindy Administrator Show me the Shishies! Posts: 1507 Kudos: 1350 Votes: 730 Registered: 25-Apr-2001	Dont add amrid. It will neutralise the ammonia but you will still get a reading, and most likely a false one that is very incorrect. Just wait it out for a couple of days, retest and go from there. If you need more help post back. Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes. That way you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55
r0b3y Enthusiast Posts: 261 Kudos: 262 Votes: 41 Registered: 07-Nov-2004	okay no sign of change .. i'm guessing i should do like another 50% or more water change? thanks to those who are helping out!!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:55


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