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hi all, hope ready for christmas.

i've had early present from next doors, they've moved some distance away, and i've been given their tank which i didn't turn down.

tank measures 24x12x16 think about 20g max. i has gravel blue rocks, some plants, snails
filter is interpet duo 3 internal?
100W heater
15W lifeglo bulb.

fish - from what i've figured out!

Neons x4/5
tetra x6 - red stripe down middle and white tips to all fins?
1 cichlid think german ram but its gold and bits of blue
1 gourami red
2 think platies lifebearer without question.
1 small pleco - hides alot think might be bristlenose.

any advise on these fish and the tank would be greatfull.

NFB
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those id's are a little sketchy. some pictures would deffo help. at the moment i wouldnt say the tank is overstocked but i would say the filter is.

From my calculations you can't have enough bio suface or bio media to surfice for the total fish weight you have in there.

heres what i'd do to start with

take the cichlid out sorry if you;ve grown attached to him but cichlids belong with cichlids in my oppinion.

plus i think they're sooo boring. we have tanganikans and malawis at college and all they do is swim franticly around the tank.

guess that appeals to some people

Hi

Your tank is a 20 gallon "high"

Now for the fish...

the tetras sound like maybe these? The white tips is the give away... http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/profiles/bleedingheart.xml

As for the gourami - how big is it, and how would you describe its body shape? if it's quite small and rounded over all it's probably a dwarf gourami, in which case it's fine for your tank.

The cichlid sound slike a Gold German Ram, which is a different color variety of the normal German Ram which is mostly blue. These are actually one of the most peaceful cichlids and i think he'd be fine for your tank. Pay attention to nitrates, ammonia and nitrite because they can be very sensitive to these parameters.

The pleco kind of worries me because plecos are always poop machines, no matter the size. If he is a BN then he should be ok, but make sure to gravel vac regularly to clean up his mess. If he's a common pleco then I'm afraid he'd be better off going back to the pet store.

It sounds a little crowded in there... a better/ bigger filter may help out.

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Back in the saddle!

Besides what NowherMan6 says,

I think the tetra is [link=This One]http://www.fishprofiles.com/interactive/photos/gallery.asp?id=glowlight_profile&page=37FB3DCD473A34C7491D4A618E92A44C9563A85391BB83EA33899B8CAD0E9D34" style="COLOR: #ff6633[/link].

Ingo

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Ahhh, glowlights! yes, that may be it too... I wasn't aware they had white fins spots but... well, there ya go.

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Back in the saddle!

thats the ones glowlights i'll look them up.

it's a dwarf gourami seen them in lfs today.

for the fish i have what is best tank setup, at mo bit bare after the move got some small blue rocks bit bogwood and couple plants.

say filter not good enough what do you suggest to replace i with.

can't really have exturnal like my 30g as tank not on stand it's on little brick shelf thing no where to hide filter or put it.

thanks for repies any these fish have special needs?

NFB .

Your other filter must be a canister then right? A hang on back filter like the aqua-clear models hide behind the background. They're very easy to clean and quiet to run, you won't even know it's there. I'd get one that is one size up from what you need for the tank, I'd recommend the AC 50, then you don't have to worry about under-filtering and I don't really think you can ever over-filter. Are the plants live?

"If you're afraid you'll make a mistake, you won't make anything."
-Family Circus

i've got one of those duo 3 filters they are not a bad filter, but with your stock it will need cleaning alot.

best thing i've found is to add gravel or zeolte into the small plastic compartment as a bacterial fitler and to add two blue filter things instead of the one then when cleaning out only damage bacteria on one at a time. clean the other one the week after etc.

i'd keep an eye on the ram with the gourami, should be ok as ram perfers the bottom half and the gourami towards the surface.

i've got bristlenose feed with lots veg and waffers, if get loads algae don't feed him for couple days and all algae will be gone.

shekoi

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