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kj fishy-finn![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 385 Kudos: 200 Registered: 21-Jan-2004 ![]() | your tank can only hold 50 inches of fish. you need to just choose the fish you really like and stick with them if they are all compatible. this is what i would do: (but these are the fish i like so it depends) 3 angelfish(6in x 3=18in) - now you have 32in 11 cardinal tetras instead of neons(1.5in x 11=16.5) - now you have 15.5in (neons will be preyed on by angels when they are bigger, but cardinal tetras look the same and are bigger and wont get eaten) 5 corydora that are 2 inches long(2in x 5=10in) - that leaves you with 5.5in pair of dwarf gouramis(2.5in x 2=5in) which leaves you with only 0.5in i think this would make a nice looking tank with the different colors and species that can coexist with each other peacefully. you dont have to do this but it is combining all the fish you want into something easy for beginners with a community tank. you dont have to do this and can alter it, but this is what i would do with my experience. i hope this helps. kj fishy-finn <*)))>< 20 Gallon Album 5 Gallon Album |
So_Very_Sneaky![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3238 Kudos: 2272 Votes: 201 Registered: 10-Mar-2004 ![]() | Well, I kept 2 angels with neons for about 6 months, and then the female started eating them. Now, I keep one of my breeding pairs daughters with my neons and she has no interest whatsoever in eating them, and she is plenty big enough. I think it really depends on the Angels, and also if the neons have enough places to hide. Remember, neons usually only live about 1 year, and Angels will take about 9-12 months to grow large enough to eat them. Also, if you keep your angels very well fed they are less likely to eat live food. Last edited by So_Very_Sneaky at 09-Nov-2005 21:06 Come Play Yahtzee With Me! http://games.atari.com Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames |
jonthacker![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 56 Kudos: 35 Votes: 7 Registered: 20-Oct-2005 ![]() | The chilclids will probably attack the neon tetras. |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | I know I know i know i whant them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll try to keep them but i also like my neons so mmmmmmmm only time will tell |
So_Very_Sneaky![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3238 Kudos: 2272 Votes: 201 Registered: 10-Mar-2004 ![]() | Personally, I dont know about always swapping your fish in. What a waste!]:| Angels are awesome when they are big! Remember, these are living creatures that deserve a "Forever Home", just like any dog or cat! I would only get fish you plan to keep for their whole lives. Yes your stock list would be just fine as you have in your last post, including the angels at FULL size. Remember, neons dont live very long, and it does take quite a while for Angels to grow large enough to eat them, and some angels will, some angels wont. Come Play Yahtzee With Me! http://games.atari.com Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Yes it's a planted tank ( i whant a jungle)lol ![]() I'm not going to keep my angel full sizes probably t'ill they reach 4 " then bring them back to my lfs and get some quarter size again !!!! So 5 rainbows 3 angels, 2 pearl gouramis, 17 neons, 1 clown pleco, 6 panda cory and 2 bolivian ram is ok????? |
Ethan14![]() Big Fish Posts: 312 Kudos: 339 Votes: 18 Registered: 06-Jul-2005 ![]() | hmm how about this: since b. rainbows are shoalers how about 5 rainbows 3 angels or 2 pearl gouramis.... (I wouldnt go with both. They are both top dwellers and in many cases i know of will fight) 17 neons(wont last long with angels though) 1 clown pleco 6 panda cories pair of rams Is this going to be a planted tank? If so and you keep up with water changes your tank should be able to hold this bioload. Also, if you choose the fish I've listed there should be minimal aggression. Good luck. |
kj fishy-finn![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 385 Kudos: 200 Registered: 21-Jan-2004 ![]() | this is what i would do: (but these are the fish i like so it depends) 3 angelfish(6in x 3=18in) - now you have 32in 11 cardinal tetras instead of neons(1.5in x 11=16.5) - now you have 15.5in (neons will be preyed on by angels when they are bigger, but cardinal tetras look the same and are bigger and wont get eaten) 5 corydora that are 2 inches long(2in x 5=10in) - that leaves you with 5.5in pair of dwarf gouramis(2.5in x 2=5in) which leaves you with only 0.5in here is what i said in a post up a bit but here it is anyway. this is what i would do. to calculate inches in a freshwater fish tank you take the lenght times the width and divide it by 12 to get the inches of fish. it differs for coldwater and marine fish though. kj fishy-finn <*)))>< 20 Gallon Album 5 Gallon Album |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Ok if it was your tank which fish would you keep???? P.S how do you calculated the inches of fish for any tank???? this my list of what i whant remember i'll be getting them small : 3 angel, 17 neon t., 2 pearl g., 1 clown pleco, 6 panda cory, 2 bolivian ram, 2 Boesemani R. Last edited by casperjoker at 09-Nov-2005 15:31 |
kj fishy-finn![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 385 Kudos: 200 Registered: 21-Jan-2004 ![]() | you could add like 5 panda cories and then 1 small pleco. i have a clown pleco and he will grow to only like 3-5 inches which would be perfect for your tank. kj fishy-finn <*)))>< 20 Gallon Album 5 Gallon Album |
sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() | You could add 6-8 panda cories(keep on top of water changes so the nitrates don't get too high for them) and a clown pleco to the bottom. The problem lies in the top swimming fish. Your pushing it for space and while it may be fine for now the angels will grow and 4 of them plus 1 school of tetras could probably take over the top half of a 60g by themselves. If you took back an angel or 2 when they get bigger you could keep 2 rams and maybe 2 dwarf gouramis. Dwarf gouramis sometimes get agressive toward each other so you may end up with just 1 unless you can find a female gourami. 1male and 1female would get along but females are a plain greyish color and usually not sold. Since the angels are quite small it will take a awhile for them to grow so it would work for now at least. |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Ok so keeping in mind that i already have 4 angels and 17 neons! you suggest that i could add some panda corys how many 6?, 1 small (clown)pleco, 2 pearl gourami. could i put 2 dwarf gourami and 2 bolivian ram????? P.S if any fish get big for the tank i'm bringing it back to lfs and replace them for samller fish! could this be done?????? |
sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() | Casper already has the neons so there's no point in suggesting cardinals. Along with that I would put a school of smaller cories(panda are good) and 1 small pleco. No common plecos or anything with any size. Gouramis will not eat neons. Even big gouramis won't eat neons. Well Osphronemus goramy would but that species of gourami won't even fit in that tank. I would not add 2 species of gouramis. The pearls are one of the more peaceful and so would be the most likely that you could keep 2. 2 blue gouramis or 2 dwarf might work but the chances are much lower. Also with the number of angels in there once everyone is full grown it might not work. I really don't think another schooling fish will fit especially something as big as congos. If you want congos you'll have to drop the gouramis and probably an angel or 2. Last edited by sham at 08-Nov-2005 15:47 |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | How about these for tankmates: Dwarf Gourami, Pearl Gourami, Moonlight Gourami, Blue Gourami, Neon tetra,corydora, pleco,Congo Tetra, Panda dwarf cichlid, bolivian ram and angelfish. my tank it's a 60 gal 48 Length x 12.5 Width x 23.5 Height What do you think? are these good compatible fishes??? and how many can i fit in my tank???how many of each??? ![]() |
katieb![]() Fish Addict Posts: 697 Votes: 69 Registered: 03-Jul-2004 ![]() | I would stick to having maybe 4 or 5 species. How about: 17 neons 4 angels (Have they paired up?...When they do it may be a good idea to remove one pair) 2 pearls 8-10 panda cories or 1\2 SMALL plecos It is better to slowly stock your tank until you hit your limit, rather than stocking every fish at once ![]() I'll do graffiti, If you sing to me in French. |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Yes i know what you mean. Buti'am new to these community tanks!! it's my first. I already have a goldfish tank and i have it since 12 years, now i whant something new something better something more colerful something more. How many fish do you suggest for my tank or wich other fish can i put in????if not from those i mention. |
LITTLE_FISH![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ***** Little Fish ***** Master of Something Posts: 7303 Kudos: 1997 Votes: 670 Registered: 20-May-2005 ![]() | Casperjoker, I get the feeling that you missed the point. It is not that you need to provide caves for the fish (BTW, none of them, IMHO, is a cave dweller) but rather that there are simply too many. Do you know what I mean? Ingo |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Ok i'm going try this combination and see how it goes. I guess i'll be needing some caves to provide hiding space! how many should it be one cave for fish (gouramis, cichlid, cory, pleco???). I saw a site that has diy caves made by pvc pipes?? and some with coco shells or pot for plants. Wich of these are beter ![]() |
bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() | taht might work, i would not get the moonbeams and blue, b/c they reach about 6+ inches and very big for that tank. |
casperjoker![]() Fingerling Posts: 29 Votes: 0 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() | Well that's what i had in mind of getting, not all of them at the same time but those are the one i like.mmmmm what about 2 Dwarf Gourami, 2 Pearl Gourami,17 Neon tetra,6 corydora,1 pleco,2 or 3 bolivian ram and 4 angelfish??????? what i would like to have is a colorful tank ![]() |
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i whant them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll try to keep them
but i also like my neons so mmmmmmmm only time will tell






should it be one cave for fish (gouramis, cichlid, cory, pleco???). I saw a site that has 
