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i can never win but i must do whats right heres an updated

1 african knife fish
2 ropefish
5 hatchets
? corydoras
5 glass catfish
rainbows?

is this ok?

Last edited by resle at 31-Mar-2005 13:51

non existant at the moment but should get better after christmas, i was going to do research through winter and then start construction in the spring

ok now i get it:%) but the illustration is in acurate the land doesnt reach half way and the tank is loger than that infact my blueprint is exactly to scale by making up a scale drawing it on graph paper en erasing the pencil marks.

Right, that's my point. Using your top blueprint, this is how the tank would appear from the side - very little water.

-Molly
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umm.......my blue print is looking down not the side but i guess you could see it that way

But the land would still be ... okay, hang on while I try to draw this.

Okay, this is a side view. Looking at your blueprint, the land actually would take up more water space than this, but in any case, the brown is land, the blue is water, and the blue "bits" are where there's that sort of inlet/bay, and there'll be a bit of water behind as well.
Can you see why we don't think there's much room for fish?

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what i want to do is buy some glass cut it to be just under the same size maybe a bit shorter of the 55, glue the peices together and rest them on the ledge where the hood would rest, i dont have to worry about precision or thickness of the glass because it wont be in water, then i can put the hood on top of the extension. i can figure a way to fit the bar across the middle of the tank with the land so that wont be a problem

hope that made sense

yes, i meant Xenomystus nigri sorry about that i seam to have a nack for mixing up species:%)

Last edited by resle at 01-Apr-2005 10:29

Those links you have refer to the knifefish as Xenomystus nigri. Maybe THAT is why the size is only a foot. Eigenmannia virescens is a glass knife. You'll have to get your species straight, or talk to your LFS, because somewhere wires were crossed. Eigenmannia virescens can get 18 inches long, as is said by one of those links you provided. I think that is too big for a 55 gallon, let alone a 55 gallon paludarium.

I'm not quite sure how the paludarium is going to work... It will be filled to the top? Then the entire base of that island thing will be in the water? There will be no hood, since the land will be pretty much on top of the tank? :%) I'm confused.

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there some things wrong on your list first ropefish should not be kept alone thats why i had 2 and i cant have 8 of a small species of rainbow because i already have two turquoise

and about the african knife fish (Eigenmannia virescens), i think you are thinking of a different fish because here are some profiles that say otherwise

http://www.aquariacentral.com/species/db.cgi?db=fresh&uid=default&Type=Miscellaneous&CommonName=Knifefish&sb=1&view_records=View+Records

http://www.mongabay.com/fish/knifefish.htm#Xenomystus%20nigri

http://www.centralpets.com/critterpages/fish/freshwater_fish/FWF4577.shtml

http://www.aquazoo.co.uk/page.cfm/Type=Fish/ID=132

http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Knife,%20African.htm

that said it still would not fit in my current configuration so i have revised the blue print with more water to land ratio

http://www.thereeftank.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4597&password=60a5e724d88aa0227991a6a6ae7dde22&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

the water will be filled to the top and the land that meets the water will be mostly a 90 degree angle

Last edited by resle at 01-Apr-2005 09:16

Last edited by resle at 01-Apr-2005 09:17

No, the knife fish is still too big. The Africans get even larger than BGKs. You just can't fit then in a 55 gallon.

I'd narrow down your choices a bit. You seem to want a little of this, a little of that. While that's all well and good, you just don't have the gallonage in a 55 gallon paludarium. Assume 20 gallons, and thats a generous estimate. You'd probably be best off with one school of something, like hatchets or rainbows, a few bottomfeeders, like your cories, and then an interesting fish, like ropefish? I don't know much about the ropefish, so leave that to someone else. I'm assuming they're some kind of eel-like thing? Probably gets about 2 feet long?

So perhaps something like this:

1 ropefish
6 cories
8 rainbows (one small species)

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They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver,
So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.

just an update so it doesnt get lost in the flow of posts

ive done some research and ive narrowed my list down somewhat its a 55 gallon

1 bgk
2 ropefish
1-2 banjo catfish
5 hatchet fish
6 rainbowfish
6 glass catfish
? corydora

not sure on which amphibian/land animals but would like some frogs crabs for sure and possibly even a turtle or lizard but i cant get to specific since i dont know the temperature and humidity of the set up

im thinking of having a cave near the beach that goes to the other side and a water fall on the land side

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http://www.thereeftank.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4563&password=60a5e724d88aa0227991a6a6ae7dde22&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

I did see that, I'm just disagreeing.

Over a period of five years, a BGK is absolutely certain to outgrow that space, even though he may be painfully stunted by the limitations of it.

What are you going to do with the fish after five years? You wouldn't buy a dog and say, well, after five years I'll just trade him in, would you?

I realize the tank will be fairly full, or at least that's the plan, but the the land area is extensive and will take up a lot of water space.

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a previouse poster told me to bring the hatchets up to 10 and im only going to have this tank at most for 5 years so i wasnt concerned that the knife fish would out grow it since they are slow growers any way

and the tank will be filled to 75-100% depending on if i want to make an extension to sit on top

Last edited by resle at 31-Mar-2005 10:30

That'd be a lot of fish for a full 55 gallons of water. For a tank that'll be, what, half-full at most? (since it won't go to the top AND that large land area is taking up a lot of the water space), it's waaaay too much. The BGK in particular would barely fit in a full 55, so he's out. The rainbows would prefer a school of one species to pairs of several, and most of those species are just too big for the space allotted. Perhaps a larger group, 6-8, of a smaller species - Neon Dwarves, Threadfins, etc. Then cut back on the Hatchets and you're a little closer to sensible stocking - but I'd still give the tank lots and lots of time to mature before approaching that level.

Last edited by LittleMousling at 31-Mar-2005 10:18

Last edited by LittleMousling at 31-Mar-2005 10:19

-Molly
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another question about clams: will they infest and take over every inch of the aquarium?

is my stocking list good? heres an update

1 bgk
10 hatchet fish
2 ropefish
2 red rainbows
2 turquoise rainbows
2 bosmans rainbows
2 banjo catfish
6 glass catfish
6-10? corydoras(panda,bronze,albino,bearded,blue,maze,pepper,ornate?)

The zoo-babyclam burrows into the skin and dies, but causes the fish to surround it with a white cyst which looks like ICH

In truth, parasitization is not incidental - it represents a vital stage in the life cycle of many freshwater bivalves; drifting larvae intentionally seek out a suitable host (generally to only mildly detrimental effect, if that), eventually detaching to become benthic juveniles.

id also like some clams to clean the water but there have been reports that the zooplanktonic offspring may become lodged in the slime layer of slow moving fish. The zoo-babyclam burrows into the skin and dies, but causes the fish to surround it with a white cyst which looks like ICH

Actually, Corbicula fluminea, the "golden Asian clam" most commonly available in the aquarium trade, produces free-living veligers [and may self-fertilize].

well i remember researching lizards a while and i had narrowed it down to emerald swift,crocodile skink, haitian and jewled curly tailed lizard and long tailed grass lizard
but i dont remember which ones would work besides the crocodile skink which is hard to find

i am considering a newt specificly a fire bellyd newt but ive heard they like temps below 78, lizard lights will burn them which rules out a lizard and are poisonous is this true?

id also like some clams to clean the water but there have been reports that the zooplanktonic offspring may become lodged in the slime layer of slow moving fish. The zoo-babyclam burrows into the skin and dies, but causes the fish to surround it with a white cyst which looks like ICH

and finaly the water will fill 75% of the aquarium with the possibility of an extension of the top to allow more room for land and plants

Hi,
Good selection of fish. My only concern is make sure you make the water level high enough so its comfortable for the fish because I've read if the water level is under 12 inches fish can become stressed or just begin acting weird. I also advise you to pin point the amphibian or reptile prior to getting to fish because this may cause the problem of disappearing fish. LOL I'm currently setting up a paludarium to.