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thanks again girlie but what do u think the first fish introduced 2 the new would be ?/ (u know nitro cycle things)

Oh boy i know that will say this cuz u always make me feel better

(Also...you're not bothering me...I am happy to help. )
u know i like writting 2 u and i am happy cuz u are habby

and i promise u will be the first one who see the photo of the tank
the day after tomorrow i am going to the market 2 buy the plantes and the danios and i will inform u tomorrow about my final plantes and fish list

i dont know what i can do with out ur help
see u tomorrow

so there is no problem 2 raise it with tetra and cory ??

Nope...it should be fine with them.

Males have more color. I would only get one (either male or female) because if they breed you could have problems with aggression towards your cories.

I don't know anything about peat...you will have to ask about that in the planted section.

You may lose gallons with substrate, but most people don't calculate that way. A 30g tank is a 30g tank. Your stocking will be fine.

Also...you're not bothering me...I am happy to help. :%)
And 2.5 wpg is great...you can grow medium light plants such as rotala indica, bacopa, crypts, ludwigia, dwarf sag, dwarf chain sword, and more....

Last edited by GirlieGirl8519 at 24-Jan-2006 10:03

*Kristin*

hii again
i saw the ram he is awsome i love this fish and i will get it cuz its the south amirca center piece fish that i was looking for
so there is no problem 2 raise it with tetra and croy ??is there any problems?? and what i will get a male or a female or the both what is the best ??

and about my lighting i have 2.5 w/g daylight compact flourocent actually its u compact or somthing..and diy co2 yeast method
the sand was the block into my road so i am changing it or mix it with peat or somthing do u know how??/
(peat more avilable in my country}


another question please i know that i am bothering u
i used 2 calculate the tank capacity 30 us g(100*40*30cm) but if i put 5:10 cm of substrate the capacity of pure water will be 23:25 g (100*30*30:35cm)
so i have now or stocking problem cuz u know 11 neon 9 balck neon 7 corys and may be 1 male ram so what do u think help me with numbers i am so sad cuz now i have23g not 30g i was shocked



Last edited by JIMMY319126 at 24-Jan-2006 01:20

Flake food is good for cycling...it just may get messy. But if you have done it before, you could use that instead of fish. I would still plant the tank though, while cycling because it may help speed things up a little.

My ram is a German Ram. They can be pretty sensitive to water quality, although I have never had trouble with mine. Males are alot prettier than females.

Bolivians are another choice of ram. They are not as sensitive and some people find them easier to keep.

here there is a picture of So_Very_Sneaky's Bolivian Ram.

If you got a German Ram I would make it the very last fish you add.

It is great that you upgraded your lighting...researching is always helpful and I wish everyone would research before jumping into the hobby.
Do you know how many watts you have? Or what type of bulbs...fluorescent, compact fluorescent, T-5...?

*Kristin*

u are so kind..
u know i used 2 put some flake food is this helping on cycling
and about planted things i upgraded my system in order 2 get sowrds ..sagittaria.cryp... u know i studied hard i know some info
and what about getting RAM instead of gurami u know i saw ur girl ram photo and i love it and also it will make my tank a perfect South & Central American Habitat cuz u know guramis from asia

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Last edited by JIMMY319126 at 23-Jan-2006 19:53

nope I am glad to help.

By established I meant with fish and has been cycled.

If your tank has been running for 2 weeks with no fish or plants...its not established.

Some people think cycling with fish is a bad thing but if you plant the tank it will reduce ammonia and reduce stress of the fish.

If you don't have a test kit I would get one...that way you can keep track of the water parameters and will know when the tank is cycled...then you can get the fish you want.

About plants:
First off, what kind of lighting do you have? If you have the original bulbs that came with the tank/hood then you probably have low light. Low light plants are easy...but choices are kind of limited.
Some low light plants are Anubias (attach them to driftwood or rocks), Crypts (my favorite type of plants), Java Fern (attach to driftwood or rocks), and Java Moss (attach to DW or rocks also).
You may want to post in the planted section if you haven't already...those guys can go into more detail about types of lights and may be able to tell you how many watts yours are if you don't already know.

Last edited by GirlieGirl8519 at 23-Jan-2006 19:32

*Kristin*

u know i will take the second choice
and yes i have already stablish tank acctually this tank is established and runing for 2 weeks now but no fish no plant i take some time studying about it and i am gona change the sand i have with better substrate (cuz i read a lot bad things about sand)to plant if u have any advice about easy-medium plant list fits my fish please tell me (it will be my first planted tank )
hope u dont get sick from my questions?///

Last edited by JIMMY319126 at 23-Jan-2006 19:24

what about 11 neon ,9 black neon ,7 albino cory
If that...plus the male dwarf gourami is your stocking list...I would go with either of these suggestions:

Fishless cycle...where you add pure ammonia to the aquarium to feed the growing bacteria (search for fishless cycling on google or another search engine and you will find articles about it that are detailed)

or

Borrow some zebra danios from the LFS and make sure you can take them back after cycling is finished.
These guys are very hardy. That is the way I cycled my 10g a while ago...I kept them though because I didn't know they shouldn't live in a 10g. I used 3 and didn't lose any.

Neons are pretty sensitive to ammonia and shouldn't be used for cycling. I think the black neons are a little more hardy..but I still don't think they are good for cycling. Also, cories really shouldn't be used either...so you will have to find another way.

Is this your first tank or do you have others?

If you have other established tanks, you could seed the new one with gravel and filter media from an old aquarium and may be able to put the cories in.
Also, if you plan on having plants...put them in now. They will greatly help the cycling process and lower the amount of ammonia so that the fish you use can handle it better.

*Kristin*

hiiiiiiiiiii everybody i have 100*40*30cm tank (30g)
i am thinking about albino corys and neon tetra or neon black but i confused what is the best centerpiece(single) fish will be???//( guramies i know what else?)

please give me ideas with numbers of neons and corys????
(by the way the temp of the water is 25c is this sutable with neon and corys???)

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Last edited by JIMMY319126 at 19-Jan-2006 19:11

I had 2 males in a 10g and they fought alot...one even died because of the other.

I would suggest getting just one male. Females are hard to find and I think I have heard that males will torture the females. Get a 2nd opinion though.



*Kristin*

thanks girlie but if i get dwarf guramis do males do well together or 1 male 2 1 female or what??????


Last edited by JIMMY319126 at 21-Jan-2006 15:42

25C sounds good for that list. I keep my neons at 78F now (not sure how many degrees C that is) and have kept cories at up to 83F without problems. It didn't stay that high for long though.
Its not really about an ideal temp. If you look on the profiles on this site, it tells you the range. Anywhere within the range is good.

*Kristin*

guys thanks for the info
what about 11 neon ,9 black neon ,7 albino cory
(please give the ideal temp for them)

In my 30g I have 18 neons, 5 cories, a BN, and a paradise fish.

The paradise fish is funny, he often tries to school along with the neons or takes naps with the cories.



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I personally prefur Black Neon Tetras, and i think they are supposed to be more hardy than ordinary neons (this is what i have heard, correct me if i am wrong)

My opinion anyway

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I just set up a 29g and I am going to stock it with 8-10 neons, 8-10 Harlequin Rasboras, and about 8 cories. For centerpiece I am thinking about an Opaline Gourami..if I can find one.

I think a huge school (like 20) regular or black neons would look great. Especially if you plant your tank. You could have 8-10 cories (more if you get smaller ones like pandas or habrosus)

For centerpiece you could have a dwarf gourami, opaline gourami, betta, or something of that nature.

*Kristin*