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is there such thing as too much filteration?
as in is there a point where it just doesnt make any differance?

and one of my filters has a spray bar which i have no idea what to do with as in what it does or how i use it


Last edited by judz at 28-Aug-2005 18:32

hi there

As far as I've known you really can't have too much filtration on a tankunless that is it's sucking your fish into the filter, then uh you would have a problem With that said I would set up a cannister filter rated to change cycle 350 gallons/hour on a little 1 or 2 gallon tank, that would drive the fish insane, or so I would think:%)

As for what the spray bar is for, you should have a pipe with a basket type thingy this is your intake (where the water is going to be sucked into the filtration)...the other end "spray bar" is where the water is going to come back out after being cycled and placed back into the tank to be cycled through again...it should connect to a more flexible piece of tubing...the question as to where to place it is up to you...there are a lot of varying factors, in all honesty.

If you have say a 3-4 foot tank I would put the intake tube on one end, and the spray bar on the opposite end, thus making it that the water isn't automatically cycling from the out to the in, out and in, out and in, without having a chance to truly be in the tank...

Now if you have a 6 ft tank or so you need to look at setting up 2 filters simply so that the water can be fully cycled properly...

Ok those are just my thoughts and judgements, I'm sure others have different ideas as well, Heidi

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judz

As far as filtration it would be very difficult to have too much but you could have a too strong water current for some fish.

The best as Heidi stated intake one end and the spray bar the other.

I have my spray bar set just below the surface of the water personal choice only.

I suggest you tell us a bit about yoyr tank size and what is in the tank. Also the type and size of the filter you are using.

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im using the emperor 280 plus the whisper 30
the spray bar goes across the bio wheel and shoots water at it from 4 streams

i dont think current is an issue cause most of the fish in my tank came from streams and rivers and like current. but more that is it a mute point having all that filteration in a 29 gal is there only so much filteration u can do then after that it doesnt do anything. or will more filteration always improve the tank

Adding filtration will keep improving the tank, but only marginally. A filter can only remove whats there; if your current filtration removes most of the waste, there isn't a whole lot for a new filter to do.

I don't think that you can have too much filtration.


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no such thing lol... i have on my 55g a penguin 300 and a whisper 60 and its been running for about 2 months or so and its still crystal clear. given my fish arent that big. but its ready to be heavily stocked.

and i plan on doing the same on the 150 i'm setting up right now.

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o ur filters arent too far off mine
mine isnt too clear due to meds i have been putting in for my female gouramis

Too much filtration depends on what type of fish you have. If your keeping fish that like calmer waters such as labyrinth fish then a lot of water movement is not going to be to their liking. If your keeping rainbow fish and tetras then 10 times the tanks volume or more isn't going to bother them. If your keeping hillstream loaches or very fast river fish then 10x is going to be normal or even low for some tanks.

im sitting at 14xplus

280 + 150 / 29

but if there is a mute point to having all that filteration no matter how much u have in the water.

however i do have quite the stock in the tank im kinda experimenting with what my plants and filters can hold. i have ammo lock if anything goes bad and another smaller tank to put some of the fish in.

but with weekly 20% changes, 14x plus filteration, good top middle bottom set up of fish and large broad leaf plants with great root structure i think it will work.

I run a Fluval 404/Magnum 350/2 Penguin 330's/ and UGF with powerheads on my 125. Now thats an overkill. But if 1 goes down I am safe, and I also not need bother with charcol in my canisters as its easier in my Penguins. Put it this way, I'll prolly never see a Ammo/NitrIte spike. I've always "overfiltered" every tank I own, but all are crystal clear, and I don't have to worry if weekly water changes go towards 9-10 days. Good thing I pay the electricity bill and not my wife.

haha ok thats good, im kinda leaning that way now
i have a large filter on my 10 gal too

If your current is too high you can try lengthening spray bars, buying bigger ones etc glueing two together with sealant etc. Even some internal filters can be modified to take spray bars with a little ingenuity, although obviously you do this at your own risk and usually aginst the manufacturers guarantee.

i found out what my spray bar does it makes the bio wheel turn and makes sure it stays wet to keep up bacteria