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Hey i have a new 20 gallon long tank Penguin Bio wheel 200 and a T-5 series 30" 10,oooK Daylight and True actinic 03 blue T5 fluorescent lamps. I began cycling the tank last night and got 10 white cloud minnows to help with the cycling. Once i have completed the cycling process I want to have a pair of German Blue Rams, a BN Pleco and a school of fish but I am having a hard time deciding and would like some suggestions. Just please no Neon Tetras
oh and also currently i have a 5lb piece of bog wood and have attached a little anubias nana and a little piece of java fern.


Jason

ummmmmm well i not really into small schooling fish maybe go for idk lol well i say neons would be cool or cardnials.

How about Harlequin rasboras? Cardinal tetras? Glowlight tetras? Lemon tetras? Black Phantoms? There are literally hundreds of species of small schooling fish.

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What you have to remember with small schooling fish (I have Cardinal Tetras) the bigger the school the better in a tank that size and not having many other bigger species 30-40+ would look very good,
Your tank is 75lt substrate and the big piece of DW I think you will be close to 65-70lt. In all tanks and especially smaller tanks it is extremely important to know the exact water capacity when it come to using any medications at the correct dosages.

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Are you looking at keeping the WCMM in that tank or will they be moved to a different tank?

If they're staying I think you pretty much have your stocking done, WCMM work well in a 20. Maybe a few of the smaller corys or the BN that you mentioned.


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I am going to take the minnows out of the tank.

I think i have narrowed it down to either the H rasboras or zebra danios. keith you were saying to have 30-40 fish? wouldnt that make my tank overstocked?
I want to have the two rams and a BN pleco
How many danios could i put in after that to reach my capacity for the tank?

Paul
Every thing would depend on the size of the fish you choose plus what else is in the tank and I did mention about other big fish.
It also depends how you run your tank by that I mean filtration is it for a tank that size or upgraded to larger tank size. Your water weekly changes what percentages, even to the plants you have the more live plants the better.

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If you are planning on getting a school of danios I would just stay with the WCMM. They are almost as active and more colorful.

thanks for all of your help
the little minnows are starting to grow on me as I sit and watch them play in the current of my filter outlet.
Does anyone know a good way to make caves? I was thinking of getting a piece of PVC and putting it in the corner and covering it with rocks. Any other good cheap and easy ways?

Some driftwood makes a natural cave also there are the three rocks two sides and the roof, or a combination of rocks and DW.

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Keith:

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cheap cave = coconut shell

the WCMM's are fun, especially if you can find gold ones to go with the ones you have now... The two Rams would be a nice contrast to add some variety.

beware the pleco, they get good sized and a major bio load on a tank of that size...

Harlequins are beautiful schoolers, as are my favorites, rummynose tetras...

good luck and keep us posted, welcome to FP!

I went to the LFS after two weeks and had them test my water. Everything checked out perfect, nitrites 0, ammonia 0, nitrates 5ppm, and ph 6.2
So i decided to get 3 cherry barbs because I wanted something that had the same coloring as the tail of the minnows i currently have.
Yesterday I was cleaning the tank and noticed 3 little snails crawling around. Anyone know what these are and if they are good or bad?

You will either have to a far better description of those snails or take one out and get a close up photo. Before they can be identified corectly.

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I took one of the snails down to the LFS and she said it was a common pond snail that probably came with my live plants that I bought from them. They are very good at reproducing and now i have about 20 of them. I dont mind them, but am wondering if they could do any harm to my tank. She suggested getting a loach to eat them, but i am not particularly fond of loaches so I might just net a bunch of them and take them back to the fish store.

Oh and I also picked up 3 cherry barbs while I was there and they are doing good. Got a male and two females and the male is very red and they are very active.