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heres my new set-up with 2 Koi angels, 2 Scalare (1 wild) angels(ones a veintail) Ive since added (not in pix) 1 sm solid black, 1 sm marble with awsome markings!
I have 2 American Flagfish, 2 ottos, 1 Sumo loach, and 2 4-5 inch Clown loaches.
cheers..

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Wow, those are some great pics, and your fish look beautiful as well (The zebra angels and sumo loaches happen to be my favorite)

Just some words of advice:
I dont recommend keeping flagfish with angels. They can sometimes get quite nippy, and that wont mix well with your veiltail.
Also, unless you are using them as feeders for the angels, I suggest you take those neons out as well.

Other than that, the tank looks great, so keep up the good work

thanks! Im very happy with this set-up..
First time Angel keeper in my 25 yrs in the hobby.
a couple of the pix are from another tank..the sumo and loaches are now in the 80g, the neons are in the 50 still.
the couple of angels were small when kept with the neons at the time..no problems,or too fuss over. The neons were full grown as well 1 in+.
The flags do fine in the 80g, dont bother the angels at all that ive seen. Might end up dinner when they all get full grown thou..flags are busy eating the algae, seems to balance well and thats what it all about, from my experience..
my ottos didnt make it,ive tryed with those little guys a few times and had no luck and different set ups too?? oh well.. the flags do a better job IMO.
I have added since 2 baby plecos,that are doing wonders on the DW and bits on glass. When they get to big and messy, Im taking them back to work and get two more babies..
dont want to keep plecos for that reason..essy and big, when I get it fully established and balance with little to none for algae growth..I'll rid of the plecos..
cheers Sue

Great photos you certainly have put some work into that tank.

What ever you do dont put a SAE into that tank the SAE will actually remove the natural slime from the Angels and this will kill the Angels.

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Keith

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That's a great tank and some very nice angels

The Amazon Nut...

What ever you do dont put a SAE into that tank the SAE will actually remove the natural slime from the Angels and this will kill the Angels.

Whaaaat?????
You're living too much back in the 80's, keith.
Siamiese Algea Eaters are usually Crossochelius species, i think you are reffering to the "CAE" or "sucking loach". SAE's dont even have a 'sucking' miuth. The "CAE" will get larger than Crossochelius and can turn aggressive, and will latch themselves onto pretty much anything that annoys them - this is not just angelfish or discus, but anything with a large surface area.
SEA are perfect for planted tanks. Try to get

Hi,
Keith, I have to agree with Mez... SAE's would be fine,
for a while, but as they age they develop a taste for the
foods being given the other fish, and they eat less and
less algae. Because of their size when mature, and speed,
they can grab the foods being fed to the others and will
generally ignore any algae growing in the tank.

Itsjustme, It is a beautiful tank. I love the look the
the substrate gives the tank. What is it and where did
you get it?

Are the plants plastic?

Frank

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Hey all, gezz has it realy been Sept since I was on last..
Tank has changed alot since then, background as you see. Added some new plants.
Frank the Amazons were real plants, along with the other few, quite tasty its seemed to the newly added fish. As you see here in this pix a luprinous (spelling?) banded loach, from the headstander family. I purchased 2 and apparently they like to eat plants, yah didnt do much research before hand. They were 4 cm and have grown 4-5 times the size in a matter of months! Big eaters and are jumpers too. Only one in pix here as I did lose the other (and was the bigger of the two) twice I had lucky been home to catch him hitting the floor, and this one has also taken the plunge!
I am looking a giving him up come this week.
Lost the veintail , My clowns have grown well and the rainbows are doing good.
Sumo comes out every once and a while. Horseface loach was added and two khuli loaches to play in the fine gravel.
ghost shrimp have survived feedings and are somewhere? see them the odd time, nice and big and red now.
The make shift cave contraption to the right I added for the Banded loach, what an eye sore that turned out to be!!!.
The gravel Frank is by Geo Systems 2mm and finer, its called "black beach" Hagen carries it.
heres a few more pix they are about a month old.

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heres a full tank view

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My Betta!, hes silver and gray/black, best looking one ive seen

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OMG! GORGEOUS BETTA!!!!!!

I have the same orange rainbows as you, lol. They're cute. Very nice fish!

Beautiful tank. I really like the driftwood layout and some amazing fish you found there! That is a seriously stunning betta!

I would recommend maybe some anubias on the larger driftwood in the front. Love the loaches! NICE TANK!

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thanks for the nice words, found my banded loach a new home. A customer that comes into the store has a 300 gal tank, Ive never had an easy time giving up a fish, there are very few that I have parted with over the years..but I had not realized how big he would get so fast, and losing his partner to the jumping over board, I was devestated

That Betta was listed as a Silver Dragonscale split-tail, Said a "must order" they are going fast. Ordered one for myself first and was shocked..faxed them and ordered 25, they did sell out fast. Mine was the nicest of the lot and the biggest.
Hes the king of a castle, I keep Bettas in bowls but this guy got a heated 10gal tank.
I hope with the loach gone my Angels and or the rainbow will breed.

Wow good job on finding that guy a new home!

We recently got two bala sharks from another member here that needed them to go to a new home. It's great when you know they're going somewhere they'll be looked after.

Nice tank btw

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Nice tank and Betta.

Cool betta

i love bettas that one is awsome i saw one like him at pet co but the was set aside so i couldnt get him i was looking to replace my betta that died of old age but i found and orangey red one that looks like fire!

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