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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | hey guys i just wanted to know a few things about this parasite,i understand how it multiplys,and its cycle.so what makes it move around the tank,fins,current,or what? how does it ancore itself to the fish? how come not all the fish in the tank get it when it does pop its ugly head up? thanx guys. ![]() |
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Jerrard![]() ![]() Fingerling Posts: 21 Kudos: 19 Votes: 5 Registered: 02-Oct-2007 ![]() ![]() | i belive they are free floaters they ride the current till they can attach to a fish they hatch from the custs in the sand so bottom feeders pick this up quicker and more often plus i have found fish that have contracted ich before tend to be more tolerant to it and contact it less. 1-Ancistrus triradiatus 4-Gymnocorymbus ternetzi 2-Danio frankei 2-Danio rerio 2-Danio Starfire 2-Chromobotia macracanthus 2-Erpetoichthys calabaricus 4-Ampullariidae 1-Mastacembelus erythrotaenia |
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clownloachfan![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 660 Kudos: 850 Votes: 115 Registered: 10-Oct-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | It will usually only attack stressed fish or fish that have not been adapted to a new environment. |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Here is a lot of info about ICH does this help you? WHITE SPOT ICH “White-spot” Parasite, Ichthyophthirius multifiliis This disease is easy to recognise, as the skin of the infected fish becomes covered with white spots, each the size of a pinhead. Each spot represents the site of one, or sometimes two, parasites. All parts of the body gills, may be attacked. The causative agent is named Ichthyophthirius multifiliis. It is a spherical and large by protozoan standards, measuring up to 1mm in diameter. Short, hair-like processes known as cilia are spread densely over the surface. A horseshoe-shape nucleus is also present which is clearly visible under the microscope. By the means of the cilia the parasite rotates vigorously and burrows into the surface la Reproduction occurs away from the host. After maturing in the skin, which takes a few days to three weeks, depending on the temperature, the parasite bores out, swims away and comes to rest on a submerged ob Symptoms If the protozoan is introduced into a tank containing healthy fish, little harm may occur, other than a fleeting infection with a few parasites. If however, the fishes are already weakened for some other reason, e.g. lack of oxygen, the parasite will quickly cover the whole body surface, causing irritation and opening up wounds for secondary infections. The host mobility may become affected. In sever cases, death may result. Prevention If white-spot appears in an otherwise healthy tank, the parasite “must” have been introduced either as an adult on a newly acquired fish, or as the cyst form on, for example new stones, a plant or even added water. The only certain method of prevention, is to quarantine all new stock, including stones, plants etc; preferably in water at a temperature of 77F. Allow one week’s quarantine. Treatments There are too many treatments today to recommend any specific one. Many can be bought easily at aquarium outlets. Several very interesting points to think about. Very easy to recognise. Its reproduction cycle. No host they will die. If introduced into a healthy tank little harm may occur. Pay attention to all tank details. Weakened fish, and lack of oxygen can/may and will cause sever deaths. All this is usually caused by poor tank maintenance and/or incorrect and faulty equipment. Prevention is the best cure A Parasite “must” be introduced into the tank. This information was collected from Fresh Water Tropical Fish *********************************************************************************** Calilasseia POSTED BY Calilasseia Posted 24-Nov-2006 01:48 The key facts to remember about White Spot (and I'm sure Keith has covered these, but I'll repeat them just in case) are:[1] Only one part of the life cycle of Ichthyophthirius multifiliis, the causative parasite, is susceptible to medication, which means that ...[2] Medication has to be applied even when the symptoms appear to have gone for up to 7 days afterwards, to make sure that all the susceptible stages of the parasite have been eliminated. The parasite in question has a three stage life cycle. The part that manifests itself is the trophont or feeding stage. This stage burrows through the fish's slime coat, attaches itself to the outer la Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | ok cool thanx everyone,especally keith,well done,i posted this because of me being lazy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I am not sure if it is in that reply BUT remember to keep treating the tank for several weeks. It is even possible to introduce it via a fish (as you know) that even looks healthy. It only takes a few of them to get into the tank then its big Ich time. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | yeah cool,i remember from last time,to keep treating for 7 days even if you cant see anymore,as to make sure you have killed all parts the cycle,does that sound about rite? ![]() |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | If you read that info carefully you will find that 7 days is not enough it only requires one little Ich to be alive and off you again. When I had the outbreak in the Betta tank Via one cardinal I treated the tank for an extra month. Overkill may be BUT I don't have Ich any more. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | well you do have a good point there,ive got plenty of meds,so i mite keep on treating for longer then a? ![]() ![]() ps,also jerrard,says above that bottom feeders get it first,because of where the parasite comes to rest,but none of my bns,or my big pleco,even got 1 little sist on em,please explain ![]() |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | There is a good possibility only infected fish went into one tank and the other fish were healthy enough to resist the Ich. Other than that no idea just the luck of the draw. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | ahhh ok thanx everyone ![]() |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | If the tanks are set up with different filtration systems then it's quite possible that one of the tanks had only that slight difference in paramaters that made it more susceptible than the other tank. Some bottom feeders from what I remember are slitghtly more resistant to ich than others. I don't think any fish is immune (correct me if I'm wrong) but some are more likely to get it than others. Especially any fish that doesn't handle stress well. Good luck with your treatment Hokese ![]() ^_^ ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | well its all cleared up ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Good luck! Since you're continuing to treat, keep up with the water changes per the meds directions. And also test for ammonia, and nitrIte. After treatments you may see a small minicycle and I wouldnt want to see more stress (=greater chance of ich) on the fish after you've just finished getting them over a case. ^_^ ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | ok cool,ill do some tests,and makesure that everything is ok ![]() |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You can give your good bacteria a boost by adding Sera Nitrivec at a recommended dosage. I have been adding it to every water change and I double up when I clean the Eheim Pro11 canister filter. This makes sure the good and original bacteria is always in a healthy state. You could also do a week or so of Melafix to help releive any stress. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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HOKESE![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1105 Kudos: 478 Votes: 271 Registered: 22-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() | yeah cool ive already got the melifix in,and i also use stress coat,and i use cycle to keep my bio up to scratch,ive herd alot of people that say cycle is no good,but i rekon its great,ive never had a problem using cycle,what do you think of it guys? ![]() |
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