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Over the last 6 months I have lost two cardinals with the same concern. All cardinals were bought from the same LFS but over a period of time and not the same batch (I think).

I started to treat as WS but as you can see it is certainly not. (no other fish is infected at the same time) also only one Cardinal at a time.

I thought I had it under control using Melafix as recommemded every day (half strength) but I noticed a new out break this morning on the same cardinal.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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What ever it was it is very slowly disapearing. All I have done is use Melafix and Pimafix at half strength every day and changing the water weekly as usual.

Just a note the Pimafix was $5.00 cheaper for the 118ml bottle at a LFS than a chain LFS/pet store that has recently opened. It pays to look around.

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That could have been caused by an injury. A secondary infection might have resulted as a consequence.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but thats a myxobacterium or sporazoan parasite at work the muscle tissue and the tail is suffering whitening and distension. Looks like some local necrosis, and possibly bacterial cysts too.

Get that badly affected fish in for analysis sharpish, I think that particular fish is unlikely to survive. The survival of the other fish might depend on it. Pimafix and melafix will subdue secondary symptoms but have no major effect

Can you give more details on this disease?

Ah well, thats the point, there are several diseases, and the symptoms are virtually identical, and its visually almost impossible to tell which is which, hence the need in this case for analysis. The meds lack of effect except to control periphery symptoms and the appearance of the infection can tell you which group your dealing with but not the specifics. My guess is its one of the many muscle infecting myxospora that are commonly mistaken for NTD.

Analysis is needed, and while that particuar fish would probably need to be euthanised, the others need not be , depending on the results of the tests, and wether suitable medication is available. Some of these groups of disease are treatable, others impossible to treat. They are however serious enough to warrant a sample analysis, especially if losing all of the fish in an aquarium is a possibility. This is not the kind of infection where id be prepared to make a judgement call on treatment without some hard facts, its an easy one to screw up. Depending on infection rates its hard to know whether to panic or not and go all in with treatments, or just to segregate the fish.

The problem seems to only flare up just after a water change (I know there are problems with the water at the moment) At guess I would say a secondary injury. Several weeks ago one got sucked up via the syphon (which one ???) the actual size of the concern appears to be getting smaller but very slowly. There are no signs of any other concerns on any of the other fish in the tank.

None of its body colouration is looking poor at all. The joining bof the body ant tail is normal and not reduced or swollen at all.

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