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	Ram with pop eye
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	Rams are not the most calm trop anyway and any change in their routine may indeed cause the jitters... If the Ram is eating all may be well but carefully observe for any swelling of the stomach, an indicater of the related Dropsy. Is that a German Blue or Gold?? --garyroland.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
smantzer Big Fish Posts: 378 Kudos: 347 Votes: 10 Registered: 02-Nov-2004	Garyroland: don't be so pessimistic! My baby, my bichir, had hemorrhagic septicemia and then popeye right after that, and he made a full recovery It's very possible. People need to try everything they can. My friend also treated a betta that had dropsy so bad he would float out of the water half the time. You just need perserverance, hope, and a big, fat wallet
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]Yeah i'll watch over my other Ram, im not to worried about him as he is in wonderful condition, full of colour and he has been doing alot of growing lately. But i would'nt want to loose him as he is my fav fish. Right now he is the only Ram in the tank, his not going to get to lonely i hope. Shold i buy another Ram, I don't really want to because i'm affraid that it will die aswell.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	Watch the existing Ram closely... There's a good chance the trop may end up with the same disease. Any sign of eye swelling dose Gentamycin as soon as possible. --garyroland.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
kitty163 Fish Addict Posts: 816 Kudos: 1032 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Aug-2003	Sorry for your loss.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	.....Bad news, the Ram passed away earlier today. Well at least my other Ram is healthy as can be. Anyway thanks everyone for the help.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]Alright I'll make sure the water stays clean and in tip top condition. Thanks for the help, I'll keep you posted on the Ram.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	Excellent trop... The reason I ask is that Golds can be a little touchy. Make sure your water and filtration is of the highest quality. --garyroland. --Vero Beach, Florida.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]It's a Blue "German" Ram, I have two in the tank one male and one female.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]One of my Rams seems to have pop eye. I have only discovered this today and i'm worried about it. Two questions: 1, what causes pop eye and 2, how do you treat pop eye.[/font]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]Good news, my Rams eye seems to slowly be getting better, but then on the other hand my Ram seems to be acting different, he is more jumpy, and hides most of the time. could this be from stress.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	That's why I never post links to websites... The authors of the sites think they have to respond to every disease and provide encouragement to the reader. In so doing they carelessly prescribe meds that absolutely do nothing to cure the incurable. Pop-eye often resolves itself but often leads to Dropsy, a related bacterial disease. It's a toss-up. Since the treatment is worse than the disease and can destroy the water quality of a tank, it's best to wait and see. Usually when an eye or two are severely popped there's not much one can do, same with Dropsy. --garyroland.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
kitty163 Fish Addict Posts: 816 Kudos: 1032 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Aug-2003	Thanks gary didn't no that.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
garyroland ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001	Bacterial in nature, pop-eye is seldomly cured... It's related to Dropsy and a fluid buildup behind the eye forces the eye outward. Don't believe the websites that claim cures. They usually suggest antibiotics for the malady but they seldom, if ever, work. In severe cases the eye will drop out. --garyroland.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
kitty163 Fish Addict Posts: 816 Kudos: 1032 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Aug-2003	Good luck.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
PJ Big Fish Posts: 492 Kudos: 427 Votes: 326 Registered: 19-Aug-2004	[font color="#000080"]Alright thanks for the help Malaikah & kitty163. I will do my best to treat the ram.[/font]
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
kitty163 Fish Addict Posts: 816 Kudos: 1032 Votes: 0 Registered: 22-Aug-2003	Here is a link to popeye.http://www.fishpalace.org/danscomments.html#Popeye
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37
SuperMummy! Mega Fish Posts: 1207 Kudos: 915 Votes: 30 Registered: 03-Jan-2003	Well, I'm afraid it tends to be water quality which affects popeye, so the first step would be to test your water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates, and do water changes accordingly.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:37


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