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RAST Big Fish Posts: 437 Kudos: 162 Votes: 236 Registered: 07-Feb-2002 | OK. Like what is the difference between Black and White Pepper??? Besides the colour? |
Posted 06-Feb-2006 05:16 | |
wish-ga Mega Fish Dial 1800-Positive-Posts Posts: 1198 Kudos: 640 Registered: 07-Aug-2001 | They definitely have different flavours. I would have to smell one then the other in order to put it into words. About two weeks ago I bought some white peppercorns to use in pickling. You may find white are a different variety (as in red/green apples) or just that they are dried at a different stage of maturity (as in green/black olives). Any chefs can characterise the flavours without sticking their nose in a jar? ~~~ My fish blow kisses at me all day long ~~~ |
Posted 06-Feb-2006 06:29 | |
Joe Potato Fish Addict Kind of a Big Deal Posts: 869 Votes: 309 Registered: 09-Jan-2001 | |
Posted 06-Feb-2006 06:49 | |
keithgh *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 | Its a smell, taste and texture thing if that is what you are refering to. Most White Pepper is sold as ground which is very fine yet it can be bought as peppercorns. Whereas Black Pepper is sold in various grades fine, ground, coursley ground or pepper corns which you put into a Pepper Mill and grind your self at the table. To find the actual difference you will have to do all these tests and then you will know the difference. As for cooking most recipes ask for seasoning (Salt & Pepper) this becomes your choice but other recipes call for either white or black pepper. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? VOTE NOW VOTE NOW |
Posted 06-Feb-2006 07:37 | |
Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 | Everything you ever wanted to know about pepper. It makes sense that a Potato would know about pepper ...sorry I couldn't resist... ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean |
Posted 06-Feb-2006 08:06 | |
mike77ca Hobbyist Posts: 89 Kudos: 89 Votes: 0 Registered: 07-Jun-2004 | white pepper and black pepper are actualy the same seed. Black pepper still has the berry attached, while white pepper has had the berry stripped off. Thats why black pepper has a more "floral" and aromatic quality. In the culinary industry we tend to use white pepper anywhere you wouln't want to see black flecks in your food. |
Posted 07-Feb-2006 19:22 | |
resle Enthusiast Posts: 273 Kudos: 112 Votes: 14 Registered: 09-Oct-2004 | In the culinary industry we tend to use white pepper anywhere you wouln't want to see black flecks in your food. u know culina is latin for kitchen, just some FOOD for thought. hahahahaha |
Posted 07-Feb-2006 23:45 | |
RAST Big Fish Posts: 437 Kudos: 162 Votes: 236 Registered: 07-Feb-2002 | THanks for the help. |
Posted 08-Feb-2006 00:30 | |
wish-ga Mega Fish Dial 1800-Positive-Posts Posts: 1198 Kudos: 640 Registered: 07-Aug-2001 | (sourced from a Travel Newsletter from AromaTours [/link][link][/link][link]http://www.aroma-tours.com/ ) The King of Spices -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pepper is a native plant of the Malabar region on the west coast of southern India where it has been cultivated for well over two thousand years. It is without doubt the most important spice in the world and well deserving of the title "King of Spices". Pepper was first brought to the west (Greece) in 372 BC by Alexander the Great, who's journeys took him as far east as central Asia and the Indian sub-continent. Arab traders were quick to capitalize on the rapid growth in popularity and value of this new spice, and within a short time established trade routes through the Arabian peninsula and Egypt; they were very careful to guard the secret of pepper's true origin and created an effective pepper monopoly. Pepper was highly valued by the Romans who used it to flavour and preserve their meats as well as for its medicinal properties. It was widely used as a currency and medium of exchange, and was so prized that in 410 AD, Rome was saved from disaster at the hands of the invading Visigoths by agreeing to pay them a tribute of 1.3 tonnes of black pepper! In the early middle ages the Venetians gained control of pepper supply to Europe by monopolizing trade with the Arab spice merchants, and this double monopoly ensured that the price of pepper remained extremely high. By the 15th century, the growing demand for pepper in Europe led to the "Age of Exploration", where adventurous sailors set forth to find a route to India in order to obtain the spice directly; thereby bypassing the Arab and Venetian monopolies. It was the Portuguese: Bartholomeu Diaz who rounded the Cape of Good Hope in 1487 and eleven years later, Vasco da Gama, who reached India first. Also in search of spice riches, the Spanish court sent forth Christopher Columbus who as we know, "in 1492 sailed across the ocean blue" - until he bumped into the Americas, that is. These days pepper is grown in India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Sri Lanka and Brazil with India and Indonesia accounting for 50% of the world's production. Many people believe that pepper comes from a "pepper tree" but it is in fact a vine that is cultivated to grow on top of underlying trees that are only there to support its growth. The pepper vine produces fruiting spikes that contain between 30 and 70 small berries which we know more commonly as peppercorns. Pepper is produced in three main forms: Black, White and Green. Black pepper is made from freshly picked, near ripe berries ( green ) that are dipped into boiling water and allowed to stand overnight at room temperature. The green berries undergo fermentation and acquire their characteristic black colour due to the oxidation of tannins in their skin. They are then allowed to dry, most commonly by being spread on grass mats in direct sunlight. White pepper is made from fully ripened berries ( yellow/red ) that are soaked for a week in slow-running water to soften their outer skins which contain sugars and a portion of their volatile aroma compounds. The softened skins are then removed by mechanical agitation leaving the berry kernel ( rich in the pungent peppery characters ) which is then dried. Green pepper is made from unripe berries in two different ways, both of which avoid fermentation or oxidation of the berries. The first is by pickling in vinegar, and the second is by soaking in brine followed by rapid drying either at elevated temperature or under vacuum. Because of its unripeness, green pepper is only lightly pungent and has a fresh, herbal, "green" flavour. Pepper should be as fresh as possible and preferably ground just before use. If ground and left, both black and green pepper will lose their aroma, and white pepper will acquire a mouldy, earthy taint. ~~~ My fish blow kisses at me all day long ~~~ |
Posted 08-Mar-2006 01:36 | |
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Posted 08-Mar-2006 09:10 |
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