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denver Mega Fish Mile High.... Posts: 1031 Kudos: 205 Votes: 110 Registered: 25-Jul-2000	Panaque cochliodon
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	Panaque suttoni? EDIT: I guess that is an out-dated name... so Panaque suttonorum? Last edited by Janna at 26-Mar-2005 14:08 They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	It's gotta be one of those two species. I wrote an article about the Blue Eyed Panaque, so embarrass me if I'm wrong. -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	True sutos are probably never seen in the trade. J:3 S:1 D:1 T:1 Meri:1 The next one I wouldn't have known had they not been recently sold at the store. 2 points to anyone who can guess it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/fish7.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
JQW Fish Addict Posts: 869 Kudos: 758 Registered: 09-Apr-2003	Nannostomas anomalus perhaps
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	This one's got me foxed completely. At first sight, I thought "Hey, it's Balitorine hillstream loach" ... then I saw the adipose fin. I can't find any Characiform species that even remotely resembles this. I must have searched something like 2,000 fish photos and I've still drawn a blank. You are evil C_o_L Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Places pinkie on the side of his mouth It's definitely no pencilfish, Jay. Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 26-Mar-2005 22:06
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	If it was a pencilfish I would've had this deduced hours ago. I'm stumped.:%) Cup, things like this are why I consider you an FP elite. Last edited by Shinigami at 26-Mar-2005 23:21 -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	blushes Aww, you flatter me, Shin. I'll give it till tomorrow morning, and then post a fish. To all: Oh, btw, these pics aren't exactly mine to use and will be deleted from the above photobucket account once this is over. (I suppose those with copyrights are okay, but better safe than sorry). Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 27-Mar-2005 00:42
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	The fish in question was ammocryptocharax elegans. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/waf.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Oh, now. I notice that we're only getting a head shot of this one. Presumably because the back end would give the game away far too easily. OK, let's see: pelvic fins directly beneath the pectorals, which means we're dealing with an evolutionarily advanced Perciform fish. The most obvious candidate for such a fish would be a Cichlid. And, the only Cichlids I know that are that shape are Crenicichla species (Pike Cichlids). Now, which one? I'm tempted to go with one of the Subgenus Batrachops bottom dwellers here ... I'll take a long shot and go with a juvenile Crenicichla (Batrachops) semifasciata. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	Batrachops — batrachos, Greek noun meaning frog, and ops, Greek noun meaning face or eye. The name alludes to the short broad snout and large mouth of the originally included species. They characteristically have a roundish head, and Crenicichla semifasciata definitely has an upturned mouth. They are unique among Crenicichla in having the shortest snout. I don't think that's what it is.... but of the true ID I haven't the faintest clue. >.< They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	It's in a similar genus, but a pike cichlid it isn't.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Jason_R_S Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001	Teleocichla centisquama
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	And our resident new world cichlid fanatic coming in for the win. Jan:3 S:1 T:1 D:1 M:1 Jase:1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/dtg.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Gomer Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002	A loach? Botia striata? Even though it doesn't look anything like it. -- Gomer
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Dakafall Banned Posts: 218 Kudos: 224 Votes: 7 Registered: 14-Nov-2004	Botia berdmorei?? Daka<<<< Last edited by Dakafall at 29-Mar-2005 00:26
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Jason_R_S Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001	Botia beauforti edit...nevermind, just saw the pic of berdmorei for the record, the look very similar Last edited by jason_r_s at 29-Mar-2005 03:12*
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
TigerAngel Fish Addict Posts: 522 Registered: 22-Feb-2004	second it - Botia berdmorei ***Tiger
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have used the loaches.com picture. Jan:3 D:2 S:1 T:1 M:1 Jase:1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/medium.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Dakafall Banned Posts: 218 Kudos: 224 Votes: 7 Registered: 14-Nov-2004	yea, it's Rhamphichthys rostratus Daka<<<< Last edited by Dakafall at 29-Mar-2005 19:25
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	Gymnotus don't have those needle-nose mouths. That's a Rhamphichthys of some sort. Gonna go with Rhamphcichthys rostratus, the only name I know off the top of my head from that genus...:%) -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	Yeah, its a Rhamphichthys. Unfortunately, there are virtually NO pictures of them on the web, besides one or two of R. rostratus. So that leaves these species that it could be: Rhamphichthys apurensis Rhamphichthys atlanticus Rhamphichthys drepanium Rhamphichthys hahni Rhamphichthys lineatus Rhamphichthys longior Rhamphichthys marmoratus Rhamphichthys pantherinus Rhamphichthys schomburgki They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Dakafall Banned Posts: 218 Kudos: 224 Votes: 7 Registered: 14-Nov-2004	so????????? what's the fish??? (yes, i'm an impatient person) Daka<<<<
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Sorry, Daka, I was in the midst of studying for my E/M final. Magnetism is some horrible stuff. Jan:3 D:3 S:1 T:1 M:1 Jase:1 You were right, but I can't be assed to upload a new pic as of now. Tomorrow, I guarantee it.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	Hey, but wait! Daka edited his post right after Shini corrected him! <<<<< Smells something fishy. They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Argh. No more editing, people. Jan:3 D:2 S:2 T:1 M:1 Jase:1
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Dakafall Banned Posts: 218 Kudos: 224 Votes: 7 Registered: 14-Nov-2004	sry wat's the next fish? Daka<<<<
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	This one is COMPLETELY new to me. The whole Genus, in fact. Ayone know ANYTHING about these Rhamphichthys at all? Shini, this seems like a job for you What family do they belong to? What size do they grow to? And will Shini make one of these the next Rare Fish Of The Week? I'm also quite impressed by C_o_L's ability to find some truly way-out oddballs. Perhaps he and Shini should team up someday - set up a public aquarium full of weird fish for aquarists to come and stare goggle-eyed at Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	The genus belongs to the family Rhamphichthyidae. According to Fishbase, this particular species reaches a godawful size of over three feet! I saw some fishes similar to these at the LFS before, but I have I'm not sure if they were actually a species Rhamphichthys or not. However, I didn't pick them up for the reason that they didn't seem interested in food at all, and I think the poor things eventually starved to death. LoL, own a public aquarium? Well, at the very least, the two of us have years ahead of us to work up to something like that. Last edited by Shinigami at 02-Apr-2005 10:48 -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/nf.jpg Bout time, eh?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	Tetraodon mbu is what it looks like to me, though I could be wrong. :%) -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	No, but you're on the right track.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	Tetraodon cutcutia? They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	I'll take a shot at Tetraodon palembangensis. Although not being a puffer specialist, I could be off target. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Hehehe...off target. Wait, that was meant to be a pun, right? Anyhoo, this fish is quite difficult to ID correctly simply because most pictures of this fish are incorrectly defined (often being mistaken for nigrovid. and fluv., though, as can be seen, they look completely different from one another).
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	LoL, the only other African puffers I know off the top of my head are T. fahaka and T. pustulatus, which it doesn't look like either. -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
puffer_archer Enthusiast Posts: 288 Kudos: 250 Votes: 4 Registered: 20-Jul-2004	Tetraodon schoutedeni
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Dakafall Banned Posts: 218 Kudos: 224 Votes: 7 Registered: 14-Nov-2004	even though it's pointless, i'm gonna second puffer on the Tetraodon schoutedeni Daka<<<<
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Congo spotted puffer it is. p.a. got it--exactly what I'd expect from the mod of a site catered specifically for these fish. The exact photo is actually from the aqualog book. Jan:3 D:2 S:2 T:1 M:1 Jase:1 PA:1
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	While we're waiting, anyone able to identify the mystery fish in this topic? [link=http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/57329.html?200504031118]http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/forums/General%20Freshwater/57329.html?200504031118" style="COLOR: #40FFFF[/link] -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Back from a long break due to AP testing. Next fish: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/Osxin_u0.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	If memory serves, this was one of Shini's RFOTW offerings: the Parrot Pacu, Ossubtus xinguense. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	I've never heard of this fish... Wow.:%) -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Weird. I thought you'd pointed me at this one Shini ... Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
fishguy Enthusiast Posts: 152 Kudos: 189 Votes: 8 Registered: 01-May-2004	Is this a new fish to the hobby?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Pretty new as far as I can gather. Fishbase says it reaches 7 inches in length, but I'd be wary just in case it matches some of its bigger relatives. This page]http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/ossubtus.html[/link] contains some taxonomic information, and [link=this page from fishbase.org gives some information about its reported wild diet. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	No. It's just not very common. I think below water had them in a few months ago. Jan:3 D:2 S:2 T:1 M:1 Jase:1 PA:1 Cass:1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/badge.jpg
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Shinigami Ichthyophile Catfish/Oddball Fan Posts: 9962 Kudos: 2915 Registered: 22-Feb-2001	If that's not an Aba aba, or Gymnarchus niloticus, I don't know what it is. -------------------------------------------- The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	I think Shini has the win here. I concur. Looks very much like Gymnarchus niloticus. Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
fishguy Enthusiast Posts: 152 Kudos: 189 Votes: 8 Registered: 01-May-2004	Arg this is a wild guess but: Anguilla Bicolor I do think shini won again
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Shini did indeed get it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Kleevage/blur.jpg Jan:3 S:3 D:2 T:1 M:1 Jase:1 PA:1 Cass:1 Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 15-May-2005 11:13
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
fishguy Enthusiast Posts: 152 Kudos: 189 Votes: 8 Registered: 01-May-2004	Im stumped
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
smilingpiranha Banned Posts: 160 Kudos: 130 Votes: 7 Registered: 02-Jan-2005	well it looks like a tetra
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Calilasseia Ultimate Fish Guru Panda Funster Posts: 5496 Kudos: 2828 Votes: 731 Registered: 10-Feb-2003	Looks to me as if it could be a juvenile Neolebias ansorgei. Adults tend to have more green on them. One of my favourite rare fishes. Wish I could get them!!! Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Close. This fish is actually seen more often than the "African Black Neon".
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Jason_R_S Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001	Neolebias trewavasae maybe
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
fishguy Enthusiast Posts: 152 Kudos: 189 Votes: 8 Registered: 01-May-2004	Hellloooooooooo
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Perky Mega Fish Posts: 1064 Kudos: 1036 Votes: 162 Registered: 24-Nov-2003	I gonna join in and have no idea of that fish, looks to be a characin but thats about as much as i can say
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
Jeremy Fingerling Posts: 42 Kudos: 42 Votes: 4 Registered: 26-Aug-2004	my first thought was a deformed silver dollar but no Idea other than that
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:31
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