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NowherMan6 Fish Master Posts: 1880 Kudos: 922 Votes: 69 Registered: 21-Jun-2004	Does anyone have experience shipping live fish? I've had them shipped to me before, so I pretty much know the drill. Quarentine the fish 2-4 days, use a foam insulated box, 1/3 fresh water to 2/3 air in the bags, triple bag the fish. Does this sound about right? My only question is how to ensure that there is enough O2 in the bags for the fish? I have no access to pure pressurized O2... Thanks *Back in the saddle!*
Posted 25-Feb-2006 00:30
moondog Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002	bag em up and take the box and all to the lfs and have them fill each with o2. they may charge you for it, but at least you'll know they're going to be taken care of. "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman
Posted 25-Feb-2006 00:46
crazyred Fish Addict LAZY and I don't care :D Posts: 575 Kudos: 360 Votes: 293 Registered: 26-Aug-2005	You can also get some of those Bag Buddies from drsfostersmith. Here's a link: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=12092&Ntt=bag%20buddies&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=2004&Nty=1 ~~Melissa~~ "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."
Posted 25-Feb-2006 00:53
NowherMan6 Fish Master Posts: 1880 Kudos: 922 Votes: 69 Registered: 21-Jun-2004	Thanks for the tips: The Bag Buddies, what do they do? You drop them into the bag and they release O2 into the water or up into the bag where you're supposed to try to keep it in? *Back in the saddle!*
Posted 27-Feb-2006 14:54
LITTLE_FISH *** Little Fish *** Master of Something Posts: 7303 Kudos: 1997 Votes: 670 Registered: 20-May-2005	NowherMan6, There is also a new form of bag that actually breathes air throught the material. I have to go and find the reference, I think it was in TFH about 2 or 3 months back. These bags are well tested and around since years. The only reason why they are not used everywhere is because they don't suit the "classic" shipping procedures, like containers that have to allow for air reaching the bag, so no tight packing of bags next to each other. Ingo Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club
Posted 27-Feb-2006 15:22
crazyred Fish Addict LAZY and I don't care :D Posts: 575 Kudos: 360 Votes: 293 Registered: 26-Aug-2005	Here's a quote from the link about what Bag Buddies do: Make sure your fish move safely from their accustomed environment, whether across the room or across the country. Pre-measured tablet adds oxygen and has a calming effect on fish during transport. Reduces stress, promotes slime coat, and combats ammonia buildup. Also removes harmful chlorine, neutralizes harmful metals, and adds beneficial electrolytes. Tablet eliminates guesswork for precise use. Can be used with freshwater or saltwater fish. I think this is what most fish breeders use when shipping fish....the water in my pleco's bag was blue when he got here and I know that something was adding to rduce the shipping stress on him and increase the O2 of the water. ~~Melissa~~ "Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder."
Posted 27-Feb-2006 16:42
Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004	Little fish-Kordon Breather Bags. I just started using these. In the past I used Bag Buddies and double bagged fish, filling the bag similar to how many lfs do. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Posted 27-Feb-2006 16:43
NowherMan6 Fish Master Posts: 1880 Kudos: 922 Votes: 69 Registered: 21-Jun-2004	Thanks crazyred. I'm interested now in these Kordon Breather bags. How would these be used differently than regular plastic bags? I had planned on placing the regular bags in insulated boxes, like when i receive fish from elsewhere. How would these new bags change that? Theresa, if you don't mind and if you have the time, would you mind explaining in a bit of detail how your ship your fish? Thanks everyone, I appreciate any help on this *Back in the saddle!*
Posted 27-Feb-2006 18:30
LITTLE_FISH *** Little Fish *** Master of Something Posts: 7303 Kudos: 1997 Votes: 670 Registered: 20-May-2005	Edited by LITTLE_FISH NowherMan6, From my limited memory (old man, you know ): The most important difference is that there is zero air in the bag. All oxygen needed is assimilated through the material directly. That is the reason why at least part of the bag cannot be covered with anything that wouldn't let air through. I have seen it being packed kind of like a six-pack, with some square cardboard separating the fish bags. Around this cardboard is then addtional packing material for insulation. Ingo BIG EDIT: you may find This Info Helpful, Or Not AND MORE EDIT: Here is the link to their website and product Proud Member of the New Jersey Aquatic Gardeners Club
Posted 27-Feb-2006 18:34
NowherMan6 Fish Master Posts: 1880 Kudos: 922 Votes: 69 Registered: 21-Jun-2004	Thanks for the info LF. I shot them an email, I'll see what they say. Maybe they're no tmaking them anymore by this time... *Back in the saddle!*
Posted 27-Feb-2006 21:22
bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004	how i had fish sent to me: dont feed the fish 2-3 days before the move. -1/3 water -2/3 air (1/1 love) double bag(triple is fine to) and wrap the bags with newspaper -have a styro box with any packing material -add heat pack(or cold pack) and the bags - place box into brown shipping box, and send it on its way.
Posted 28-Feb-2006 03:43
Theresa_M Moderator Queen of Zoom Posts: 3649 Kudos: 4280 Votes: 790 Registered: 04-Jan-2004	Edited by Theresa_M Just a quick reply for now...I buy all my shipping supplies at Ken's Fish and he does sell Kordon Breather Bags. Another source is AquaBid.com And yet another: Plastic Fish Bags Mail Order List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There is water at the bottom of the ocean
Posted 28-Feb-2006 18:27


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