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Im just curious Have any of you herd about vice pres chainy shooting someone? Listen im not saying anything about chainy or his administration, im just curious to see if anyone has herd about it. if u live in the us u have probably herd too much about it.


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well, it's actually "cheney" and it's hard *not* to hear about it if you live in the US and have any kind of access to a tv, radio or newspaper. interesting thing to note about the story is that the man cheney shot owned a building here in downtown austin which burned down in a mysteriously started fire last month makes you wonder what he did to cross cheney that having his building burn down wasn't enough of a hint next thing you know, he will wake up in his hospital bed with a severed horse head lying next to him...



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Umm, I think we can talk about politics now...i think.

Yes it is Cheney. And he did shoot a man that is his friend. It was a hunting trip and it was an accident. The man was released from the hospital today I think.

It was all over the news, radio, and even made fun of on the late night shows...so its hard to miss it.

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EditedEdited by Cory Addict

It's only been on every major news station for the past five days...

cf.huffingtonpost.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://dickcheneyquailhunt.cf.huffingtonpost.com/



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Cheney "pepered" a friend of his while quail hunting. Apparently the covey (group of quails) was flushed and the vice president fired accidentally "pepering" his friend with shotgun pelets. His friend was transported to the hospital and had a heart attack as a result of the shooting. No charges will be filed against the vice president even though he did not have the proper hunting liscense (had a quail liscense and shot a lawyer). The vice president has taken all the blame for the accident and apoligized to the victim.

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I'd rather hunt with VP Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
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Any car with Ted Kennedy in it probably won't be able to go over 20 mph...



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My environmental ethics professor (who I think if any of you met him, you'd *all* agree my prof is a little wacky) brought it up once, and said something about it being some sort of justice... (he's VERY against hunting)

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Boo to you Moondog. Bad insinuation there.
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http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/02/18/ap2537023.html

Associated Press
VP Accident Tale Filled With Discrepancies
By CALVIN WOODWARD and NANCY BENAC , 02.18.2006, 03:52 AM


Vice President &nbsp; Cheney said he didn't immediately disclose his hunting
accident because he wanted the confusing details to come out right.
Instead, authorized accounts came out slowly - and often still wrong.

The result: a week of shifting blame, belatedly acknowledged beer
consumption (not "zero" drinking after all) and evolving discrepancies in
how the shooting happened, its aftermath and the way it was told to the
nation.

"There's a reason they call this crisis management," said corporate
damage-control specialist Eric Dezenhall, "and that's because it's a
mess."



BLAME

In the first days after the vice president wounded attorney Harry
Whittington while shooting at quail last Saturday in Texas, blame was
placed on the victim for not announcing his presence to fellow hunter
Cheney.

"The vice president did everything right," Katharine Armstrong, the ranch
owner approved by Cheney to disclose the accident, said Monday.
Whittington, 78, should have shouted that he was rejoining the hunting
group after drifting off to retrieve a downed bird. "The mistake exposed
him to getting shot," she said. "It's incumbent on him. He did not do
that."

The White House picked up on that theme the same day in attempting to
deflect any responsibility from the vice president. "If I recall," Bush
spokesman Scott McClellan said of Armstrong, "she pointed out that the
protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington, when it came to notifying
the others that he was there."

The about-face came Wednesday when Cheney made his first public comment on
the accident.

"It was not Harry's fault," he said. "You can't blame anybody else. I'm
the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."



DRINKING

Although there is no evidence that beer impaired Cheney's judgment,
initial denials that he had consumed alcohol were wrong.

"No one was drinking," Armstrong said at the outset. "No, zero, zippo."
She said the hunters washed down lunch with Dr Pepper. Later, she
qualified her comments and said beer might have been in the cooler but she
did not think anyone drank any.

The investigating officer from the Kenedy County sheriff's department,
after interviewing Whittington in the hospital, reported that the victim
"explained foremost there was no alcohol during the hunt."

Authorities did not investigate the accident until the next day. The Texas
Parks and Wildlife accident report, dated two days after the shooting,
checked "No" on the question of whether Cheney appeared under the
influence of intoxicants. It did not address whether the hunters had been
drinking at all. (The report also included a diagram depicting
Whittington's wounds on the wrong side of his body.)

Cheney acknowledged Wednesday, "I had a beer at lunch" several hours
before the group's afternoon hunt, asserting "nobody was under the
influence."



VICTIM'S CONDITION

In the rush to assure everyone Whittington was "just fine," some important
details were left out.

Initial reports had him treated at the scene, then taken by ambulance to
the hospital, where in no time he was cracking jokes with the nurses. It
turned out that after being taken to the emergency room of a local, small
hospital, he was flown by helicopter to the intensive care unit of the
larger hospital in Corpus Christi.

According to Armstrong's initial account of the accident scene: "He was
talking. His eyes were open." Later, Cheney said that when he rushed up to
the stricken man and talked to him, Whittington had one eye open and did
not respond. He was, however, conscious.

Doctors said Tuesday that Whittington suffered a mild heart attack while
in the hospital when one of the pellets migrated to his heart. He was
released Friday.



LICENSE

Cheney did not have all his hunting papers in order, as suggested by the
White House and initially stated by Texas authorities.

On Sunday, a spokesman for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department said
Cheney was legally hunting with a license he bought in November. While
that was true, the department's accident report the next day stated that
he was in violation of a law requiring him to have an upland game bird
stamp.



DISCLOSURE

The accident raised questions about the flow of information into and out
of the White House communications apparatus.

Asked why no one released news of the shooting on Saturday night,
McClellan said "the vice president's office was working to make sure
information got out" but that details were slow to reach Washington that
evening.

Armstrong, for her part, said no one at the ranch even discussed releasing
the news on Saturday.

She said her family realized Sunday morning that it would be a story and
decided to call the local newspaper, the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. She
said she then discussed news coverage with Cheney for the first time.

"I said, 'Mr. Vice President, this is going to be public, and I'm
comfortable going to the hometown newspaper,'" she told The Associated
Press. "And he said, 'You go ahead and do whatever you are comfortable
doing.'"



TELLING WASHINGTON

McClellan said President Bush was told shortly before 8 p.m. EST Saturday
that Cheney had shot Whittington, less than half an hour after Bush first
heard there had a been an accident of some sort involving Cheney's hunting
party. Confirmation that Cheney was the shooter was obtained when deputy
chief of staff Karl Rove called Armstrong, McClellan said.

However, McClellan said he didn't personally know Cheney was the shooter
until the next morning, about 6 a.m. EST Sunday, when he was awakened with
the news.

He said he only knew the previous evening that someone in Cheney's party
had been involved in a hunting accident.




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"Vice President &nbsp; Cheney"

Hahaha...



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Lol his name is a curse word for democrats.

(Not ment to offend anyone plz dont get upset)

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And this is a big deal why?
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EditedEdited by Cory Addict

It's funny if you've seen Scott McClellan's press briefings on the subject.



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We even heard it about it here in Canada! It was in the papers and on the news.

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At least you guys have interesting politicians, have any of our politicians made such headlines? Nope.

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Hunting accidents happen all the time. I cannot comprehend why anyone would give a rat's *** about uneventful **** like this, but whatever.
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Cup of lifenoodles,

Why do ppl care? because everyone who is opposed to the Bush adminastration is looking to critize them at every turn. The last time a vice president shot a person it was in a duel a very long time ago (i cant remeber the exact date).

Canada does get news about their politicians their was coverage of the elections here in the states.

Good fish keeping to all!

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i have to disagree here. the bush administration is trying to act as if they are the first administration to be criticized, when in fact they are getting off pretty easy in comparison to many others. but any time someone as powerful as the vice president shoots someone, no matter if it was an accident or not, is going to be big news. the fact that there have been several versions told about what happened just adds to the idea that there is something to cover up, imo.



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I heard about it and i'm in the UK
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"The last time a vice president shot a person it was in a duel a very long time ago (i cant remeber the exact date)."

Close. Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton dueled way back in the early 1800's. Burr was an ex Vice-President, and killed Hamilton (possibly on accident) because Hamilton intentionally missed his shot.

I think this whole furor about the Cheney shooting is funny. I feel bad for the victim and hope he has no long term health issues because of this.

"I'd rather hunt with VP Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy."

I've seen a bumper sticker like this already and cannot agree more.



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