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fishkid99![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 252 Kudos: 218 Votes: 39 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Im just curious Have any of you herd about vice pres chainy shooting someone? Listen im not saying anything about chainy or his administration, im just curious to see if anyone has herd about it. if u live in the us u have probably herd too much about it. I am not sharing my opinion on politics or telling anyone else to >>>----> ![]() pnh |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | well, it's actually "cheney" and it's hard *not* to hear about it if you live in the US and have any kind of access to a tv, radio or newspaper. interesting thing to note about the story is that the man cheney shot owned a building here in downtown austin which burned down in a mysteriously started fire last month ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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GirlieGirl8519![]() ![]() Fish Master *Malawi Planter* Posts: 1468 Kudos: 1029 Votes: 35 Registered: 25-Mar-2005 ![]() ![]() | Umm, I think we can talk about politics now...i think. Yes it is Cheney. And he did shoot a man that is his friend. It was a hunting trip and it was an accident. The man was released from the hospital today I think. It was all over the news, radio, and even made fun of on the late night shows...so its hard to miss it. ![]() |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | It's only been on every major news station for the past five days... cf.huffingtonpost.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://dickcheneyquailhunt.cf.huffingtonpost.com/ ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
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bcwcat22![]() Big Fish Posts: 395 Kudos: 314 Votes: 34 Registered: 16-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | Cheney "pepered" a friend of his while quail hunting. Apparently the covey (group of quails) was flushed and the vice president fired accidentally "pepering" his friend with shotgun pelets. His friend was transported to the hospital and had a heart attack as a result of the shooting. No charges will be filed against the vice president even though he did not have the proper hunting liscense (had a quail liscense and shot a lawyer). The vice president has taken all the blame for the accident and apoligized to the victim. "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons |
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Fallout![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Communications Specialist Posts: 6416 Kudos: 4053 Votes: 742 Registered: 29-Jul-2000 | |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Any car with Ted Kennedy in it probably won't be able to go over 20 mph... ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
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superlion![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1246 Kudos: 673 Votes: 339 Registered: 27-Sep-2003 ![]() ![]() | My environmental ethics professor (who I think if any of you met him, you'd *all* agree my prof is a little wacky) brought it up once, and said something about it being some sort of justice... (he's VERY against hunting) ><> |
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puddle cat![]() Hobbyist Posts: 84 Kudos: 78 Votes: 446 Registered: 25-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Boo to you Moondog. Bad insinuation there. |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | http://www.forbes.com/technology/ebusiness/feeds/ap/2006/02/18/ap2537023.html Associated Press VP Accident Tale Filled With Discrepancies By CALVIN WOODWARD and NANCY BENAC , 02.18.2006, 03:52 AM Vice President Cheney said he didn't immediately disclose his hunting accident because he wanted the confusing details to come out right. Instead, authorized accounts came out slowly - and often still wrong. The result: a week of shifting blame, belatedly acknowledged beer consumption (not "zero" drinking after all) and evolving discrepancies in how the shooting happened, its aftermath and the way it was told to the nation. "There's a reason they call this crisis management," said corporate damage-control specialist Eric Dezenhall, "and that's because it's a mess." BLAME In the first days after the vice president wounded attorney Harry Whittington while shooting at quail last Saturday in Texas, blame was placed on the victim for not announcing his presence to fellow hunter Cheney. "The vice president did everything right," Katharine Armstrong, the ranch owner approved by Cheney to disclose the accident, said Monday. Whittington, 78, should have shouted that he was rejoining the hunting group after drifting off to retrieve a downed bird. "The mistake exposed him to getting shot," she said. "It's incumbent on him. He did not do that." The White House picked up on that theme the same day in attempting to deflect any responsibility from the vice president. "If I recall," Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said of Armstrong, "she pointed out that the protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington, when it came to notifying the others that he was there." The about-face came Wednesday when Cheney made his first public comment on the accident. "It was not Harry's fault," he said. "You can't blame anybody else. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend." DRINKING Although there is no evidence that beer impaired Cheney's judgment, initial denials that he had consumed alcohol were wrong. "No one was drinking," Armstrong said at the outset. "No, zero, zippo." She said the hunters washed down lunch with Dr Pepper. Later, she qualified her comments and said beer might have been in the cooler but she did not think anyone drank any. The investigating officer from the Kenedy County sheriff's department, after interviewing Whittington in the hospital, reported that the victim "explained foremost there was no alcohol during the hunt." Authorities did not investigate the accident until the next day. The Texas Parks and Wildlife accident report, dated two days after the shooting, checked "No" on the question of whether Cheney appeared under the influence of intoxicants. It did not address whether the hunters had been drinking at all. (The report also included a diagram depicting Whittington's wounds on the wrong side of his body.) Cheney acknowledged Wednesday, "I had a beer at lunch" several hours before the group's afternoon hunt, asserting "nobody was under the influence." VICTIM'S CONDITION In the rush to assure everyone Whittington was "just fine," some important details were left out. Initial reports had him treated at the scene, then taken by ambulance to the hospital, where in no time he was cracking jokes with the nurses. It turned out that after being taken to the emergency room of a local, small hospital, he was flown by helicopter to the intensive care unit of the larger hospital in Corpus Christi. According to Armstrong's initial account of the accident scene: "He was talking. His eyes were open." Later, Cheney said that when he rushed up to the stricken man and talked to him, Whittington had one eye open and did not respond. He was, however, conscious. Doctors said Tuesday that Whittington suffered a mild heart attack while in the hospital when one of the pellets migrated to his heart. He was released Friday. LICENSE Cheney did not have all his hunting papers in order, as suggested by the White House and initially stated by Texas authorities. On Sunday, a spokesman for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department said Cheney was legally hunting with a license he bought in November. While that was true, the department's accident report the next day stated that he was in violation of a law requiring him to have an upland game bird stamp. DISCLOSURE The accident raised questions about the flow of information into and out of the White House communications apparatus. Asked why no one released news of the shooting on Saturday night, McClellan said "the vice president's office was working to make sure information got out" but that details were slow to reach Washington that evening. Armstrong, for her part, said no one at the ranch even discussed releasing the news on Saturday. She said her family realized Sunday morning that it would be a story and decided to call the local newspaper, the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. She said she then discussed news coverage with Cheney for the first time. "I said, 'Mr. Vice President, this is going to be public, and I'm comfortable going to the hometown newspaper,'" she told The Associated Press. "And he said, 'You go ahead and do whatever you are comfortable doing.'" TELLING WASHINGTON McClellan said President Bush was told shortly before 8 p.m. EST Saturday that Cheney had shot Whittington, less than half an hour after Bush first heard there had a been an accident of some sort involving Cheney's hunting party. Confirmation that Cheney was the shooter was obtained when deputy chief of staff Karl Rove called Armstrong, McClellan said. However, McClellan said he didn't personally know Cheney was the shooter until the next morning, about 6 a.m. EST Sunday, when he was awakened with the news. He said he only knew the previous evening that someone in Cheney's party had been involved in a hunting accident. "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | "Vice President Cheney" Hahaha... ![]() I'm not your neighbor, you Bakersfield trash. |
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bcwcat22![]() Big Fish Posts: 395 Kudos: 314 Votes: 34 Registered: 16-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | Lol his name is a curse word for democrats. (Not ment to offend anyone plz dont get upset) ![]() "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons |
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Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() ![]() | And this is a big deal why? |
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Natalie![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Apolay Wayyioy Posts: 4499 Kudos: 3730 Votes: 348 Registered: 01-Feb-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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luvmykrib![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 585 Kudos: 256 Votes: 27 Registered: 08-Nov-2005 ![]() ![]() | We even heard it about it here in Canada! It was in the papers and on the news. "If you go out in the woods today, prepare for a big surprise!" ![]() At least you guys have interesting politicians, have any of our politicians made such headlines? Nope. ![]() "If you're afraid you'll make a mistake, you won't make anything." -Family Circus |
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Cup_of_Lifenoodles![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004 ![]() ![]() | Hunting accidents happen all the time. I cannot comprehend why anyone would give a rat's *** about uneventful **** like this, but whatever. |
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bcwcat22![]() Big Fish Posts: 395 Kudos: 314 Votes: 34 Registered: 16-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | Cup of lifenoodles, Why do ppl care? because everyone who is opposed to the Bush adminastration is looking to critize them at every turn. The last time a vice president shot a person it was in a duel a very long time ago (i cant remeber the exact date). Canada does get news about their politicians their was coverage of the elections here in the states. ![]() "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man" Simpsons |
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moondog![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator The Hobnob-lin Posts: 2676 Kudos: 1038 Votes: 4366 Registered: 30-Sep-2002 ![]() ![]() | i have to disagree here. the bush administration is trying to act as if they are the first administration to be criticized, when in fact they are getting off pretty easy in comparison to many others. but any time someone as powerful as the vice president shoots someone, no matter if it was an accident or not, is going to be big news. the fact that there have been several versions told about what happened just adds to the idea that there is something to cover up, imo. "That's the trouble with political jokes in this country... they get elected!" -- Dave Lippman |
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BlackNeonFerret![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 281 Kudos: 137 Votes: 30 Registered: 18-Jan-2006 ![]() ![]() | I heard about it and i'm in the UK |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | "The last time a vice president shot a person it was in a duel a very long time ago (i cant remeber the exact date)." Close. Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton dueled way back in the early 1800's. Burr was an ex Vice-President, and killed Hamilton (possibly on accident) because Hamilton intentionally missed his shot. I think this whole furor about the Cheney shooting is funny. I feel bad for the victim and hope he has no long term health issues because of this. "I'd rather hunt with VP Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy." I've seen a bumper sticker like this already and cannot agree more. ![]() |
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