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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I was watching a small TV program on water polution and its bacteria. One of the experments was to collect roof water after it had been raining they tested it on many types of roofing materials and every one carried some form of bacteria. This was basically because of the roofing materials or just polution that had collected on the roofs. It was done in a high population area not the open country far away from city polutions. The purpose was to check if the water was suitable and safe for drinking and cooking only. Just a thought Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, As recently as, say, 150 years ago, that was probably an OK way to collect water but with the increasing population and following pollution, I doubt it is still a good idea. The bacteria have changed over the generations, and now the current human population might be sensitive to the newer bacteria. "Back then" if you saw a flowing, clear stream, with wild life drinking out of it, you merely cupped your hands and had a drink. Today, who knows how sick you could become. In a sense, Humans are not as "rugged" as they were back then. Bugs have mutated, and "we" have relied more and more on antibiotics. If you are going to drink from the roof water, you might want to boil it first. If you are going to water your plants with it, you might want to have it analyzed as you could be increasing some element (lead, iron, whatever) to toxic levels. If those plants were vegetables, you could be poisoning yourself and your family as some vegetables tend to concentrate various elements (spinach - iron). Frank ![]() -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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keithgh![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() *Ultimate Fish Guru* Posts: 6371 Kudos: 6918 Votes: 1542 Registered: 26-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Frank I thought I might have got a lot more response from this posting as I am sure some members are collecting roof water for their tanks. I did use tank water many years ago and I was always having trouble with it as soon as I went back to tap water no problems at all. I was getting it from two seperate house roofs in my street. As you mentioned I certainly would not drink tank water collected in populated areas. Have a look in [link=My Profile] http://www.fishprofiles.com/forums/member.aspx?id=1935[/link] for my tank info Look here for my Betta 11Gal Desktop & Placidity 5ft Community Tank Photos Keith ![]() ![]() Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. I VOTE DO YOU if not WHY NOT? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Bob Wesolowski![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1379 Kudos: 1462 Registered: 14-Oct-2004 ![]() ![]() | Keith, Rainwater can be a great source of make-up water for the aquarium. The best idea is to use a collection system. My roof might be a collection system but it would not be a good method to collect make-up water. Inherent pollutants for "roof" collection system are the type of roof covering, the local flora and fauna, and the atmospheric pollutants that accumulate on the surface. In my case, I have an asphalt shingle roof and too many birds that use it as a lookout point and outhouse. Wind direction brings me a certain amount of industrial pollution from the west that will settle out of the air. Additionally, outside storage for collected rainwater brings potential problems into play. Locally, we have mosquitos and dragonflies that could and would use the containers as spawning sites. There are also a number of water beetles that have the ability to fly to new hunting sites. Some of these critters may be useful in feeding fish and others would be interested in eating fish. I would use a system that was designed to capture rainwater specifically for potable purposes. Rafts and lifeboats carry sheeting that can be unfolded to capture moisture either from storms or from dewpoint precipitation. Frank, I may disagree with you on the pristine nature of the environment in the past. The pathogens probably existed but the population probably did not care or were not aware of the problems that they were ingesting from the "pristine" waters. ![]() __________ "To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." researched from Steven Wright |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi Bob, I think we can hijack Keith's question for a note or two. I agree that populations hundreds+ years ago were not aware of the pathogens, and because they were unaware did not care. I'm thinking of the European population vs the Native American population and the effects of Small Pox. The Native Americans were not immune to the disease and the European populations had built up a resistance to it. Earlier, in prehistory days the populations drank from the flowing waters, and were, I believe, immune to many of the pathogens of the time. Over time, they learned to draw drinking water upstream from human sources of pollution. I suspect that as has been hinted at in some papers, that we have become frail and are building stronger pathogens by using some of the antibacterial products that are available such as clorox wetted towels for wiping down surfaces, or not taking all of a medication as directed or not allowing a minor cold to run its course. We had one tenant who would not allow her children to play out doors, and washed virtually everything that they could come in contact with before they did. I cannot imagine what their immune system would do years from now if they become exposed to pathogens that we, as children were exposed to, for instance, a mouth full of ocean or one of the lakes. I wanted so bad to suggest that she might want to let her kids be kids. There has been some research into the use of the appendix as an antibacterial organ in prehistory. Now days, it seems to serve no purpose at all. I do believe that once a population realizes the actions that lead a disease, the population will attempt to avoid those pathogens if at all possible, and if not, will attempt to destroy them before the population gets sick. Anyway... Frank ![]() -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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