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terranova![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1984 Kudos: 1889 Votes: 229 Registered: 09-Jul-2003 ![]() ![]() | My pH is around 6.2 ![]() ![]() ~FF~ PS- All other levels are normal, the pH is the only thing giving me a problem...and recently I lost two pandas several days apart ![]() -Formerly known as the Ferretfish ![]() |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Don't quote me on this, as I'm not quite sure, but adding a rock or two is supposed to raise the pH of a tank, right? Maybe baking soda as well? I know that raises kH, but pH is supposed to go up, too. That's the extent of my knowledge on the subject, but I hope that helps you some. Last edited by sirbooks at 07-Oct-2004 17:44 |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Driftwood will lower ph, if this tank has driftwood in it that's likely the cause...even after soaking driftwood still tends to lower ph. Chemicals don't work.....I wouldnt' rely on them. Crushed coral in your filter may help some. Of course shifting the ph is always a slight risk...best to leave it alone if possible. ^_^ ![]() |
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terranova![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1984 Kudos: 1889 Votes: 229 Registered: 09-Jul-2003 ![]() ![]() | Yea Babe this is the tank that I siliconed the DW that I picked up on vacation. I got it tested about 2 weeks ago and had the same condition, and left it alone, which is why I'm scared too again. After I had the two cory deaths I suspected something might be up...and the cories didn't appear to have any other symptoms, although the 2nd one might have been killed from the ammonia from the first one. *shrugs* ahhh... Last edited by ferretfanatic at 07-Oct-2004 18:02 -Formerly known as the Ferretfish ![]() |
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gartenzwerfe![]() ![]() Big Fish Mrs. Racso To Be Posts: 375 Kudos: 628 Votes: 199 Registered: 20-Mar-2004 ![]() ![]() | Driftwood is the culprit. Decided action: add a few rocks to see if it balances out back to a more neutral and tolerable pH. |
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garyroland![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ---Prime Fish--- Posts: 7878 Kudos: 4010 Votes: 103 Registered: 31-Dec-2001 ![]() ![]() | Tanks with natural stone/pebble substrate usually have a higher pH... Older tanks that have been in operation for a few years also suffer from dropping pH, a reaction called "old tank syndrome". An excess of waste in the tank will drive the pH lower also. Additives, as mentioned, are not recommended. I don't believe drift wood alone can drive the pH down to that level. Most drift wood loses its tannin content after awhile and becomes neutral. Crushed coral added to the substrate has a definate effect on pH as it starts to dissolve. Low pH, in most cases, has no effect on trops. In fact, many species just love a rather acidic water. --garyroland. |
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Gomer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Any carbonate ba The fish you have in your tank will be fine with a low pH, usually it is a shift in pH which is harmful to fish. But a slightly higher pH would be safer if you can manage to get to that level slowly and steadily. I suggest adding little amounts of crushed coral to your filter or substrate every 5 days or so, and keep an eye on the pH and KH levels. -- Gomer |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, I am concerned about the phrase "siliconed the dw." Depending upon the amount of silicone that you used, it still could be giving off acetic acid as it is still curing. The Acetic Acid will drive your pH well into the "6s". As Gary said, once the drift wood becomes waterlogged, the release of Tannic Acid tapers off to next to nothing and would no longer influence the pH. Frank ![]() -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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terranova![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1984 Kudos: 1889 Votes: 229 Registered: 09-Jul-2003 ![]() ![]() | Well...the siliconed dw set for over 48 hours before I put it in the tank. And I boiled the DW beforehand and got absolutely no tannins in the tank afterwards. *shrugs* The question now...should I just leave it alone or make an effort to raise it? If the black phantoms/goldbarbs/pandas/d.gourami like it I don't see it as a problem...*ponders* -Formerly known as the Ferretfish ![]() |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | There isn't a need to tamper with the pH unless your fish really need it. The phantoms and pandas prefer a lower pH, and the gourami and barbs can handle it. Just keep it the way it is, the less you mess with, the better. |
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SuperMummy!![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1207 Kudos: 915 Votes: 30 Registered: 03-Jan-2003 ![]() ![]() | "Just keep it the way it is" - I would say only if it is coming out of your tap at this PH. If not, I personally would want to determine the cause of this drop in case it was harmful to the fish.. x Edit: Meaning, in case the cause is harmful, rather than the PH level being harmful Last edited by Malaikah at 08-Oct-2004 16:22 |
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Gomer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Acetic acid (a.k.a. vinegar) is quite weak, but yeah it could lower the pH. But i doubt it is that. So what is your KH? -- Gomer |
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