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entkitty
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Ok, here is the saga, Fry tank, found tonight nitrite was off the charts. (over 5) Did a 100% water change using big tank water, all but maybe 1" of 10 gal tank. Amm. 0, Nitrite .25. Question is, how in the Heck do I keep it down. It is a bare tank, yes, new too. It is only 4 weeks only. (See profile) had to buy it for the new fry's. I can guess I am feeding them too much, but they won't eat the a lot of the big stuff. How much does one feed 13 fry's. (Not 10 times a day from what I see). They are growing little guys. I was taking about 2" of water out every other day, buy skimming the bottom of the tank to get ride of uneaten food, but I guess that wasn't working. Any help will help I am sure. – Still 11 fry left, none died of my stupidity.

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To start of with reduce the feeding. Get as much floating water sprite as you can this should help. I hope you have added some stress coat. Extra airation will also help.

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floating water sprite I don't know what that is. (hey, how do you foks but someones quote in the gray box?)

I fed less this morning, and I guess I will do another samll water change. I didn't add stress coat last night, but did add more (2 cap fulls) of Cycle. I was adding only 1 capfull when ever I took any water out only because I know it is a new tank. I also added a plant form the large tank and I hope that also helps. As of this morning all looks good, infact, just had an egg hatch; so, I have 1 new fry.
I just hope it is alive this afternoon.

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Floating water sprite (hygrophila difformis) is water sprite that you don't bother to plant! Just stick it in the glass box and let it suck up ammonia and nitrates. Ceratopteris is also very good and can be allowed to float also...

Kitty, feed less, just enough for the little ones to eat in a minute or two but feed four or five times a day. If you feed flake, crush it before feeding. The powder will be the right size!



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Thanks guy's, once again. I have been feeding them Frozen Rotifers. I put a cube in a dish, take some tank water using a syringe, 6cc, and dissolve it; then, re-suck it back up with the food in it. What I have been seeing is that the bigger pieces they are not eating, only the small ones. And the big pieces are NOT big. They can eat them, but instead they end up on the floor of the tank. That is what I have been sucking up every other night. I would take out 1-2” of water and then on the weekends, 1/3 of water. I have some duckweed on order; I am hoping that will also help. If not, let me know. I am going to try to find the other too.
Just stick it in the glass box and let it suck up ammonia and nitrates

what does that mean, glass box? and my problem is Nitrite.

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I personally would cancel the order for the "Duck Weed" it is exactly that a weed. It can grow so fast and thick it will/can reduce the light for the tank. I believe it can be a problem with some filters as well

If possible get the Water Sprite.

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ok, i will keep looking for the stuff. I just called my LFS and they tell me it is too early in the season for it right now but maybe next month. When they hear what fish I had they wanted all of them, however, if I can't get this fixed in time, I may have none left.

Someone told me to add 4oz of cycle to help in reducing the Nitrite. That you can't OD the fish on this stuff. Has anyone else heared this? It sounds logical.

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I found duckweed to be very useful and not so hard to kill. It won't survive if you have alot of water movement on the surface. I actually had trouble keeping it alive between the filters and the fish eating bits of it. To add it to my larger tank I had to start it in a smaller tank and move it but once established it's very easy to keep alive. It sucks up nutrients great and all I have to do is scrape some off the top weekly. Some people though have had trouble getting rid of it so make sure if you add it you actually want it and will keep scooping it out every week.
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The fry tank has little top movement and that is the tank I would put it in. I don't want it in the large tank at all. I will give it a try and hope that it will soke up the Nitrite as I as sure more will build when fry are growing. I am also going to try and hunt down the other that was suggested to me.

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Last night I did another 1/3 water change and reading was still .25, this morning, did another 2 gallons out, and still .25. Is this just going throught a mini Cycle and if so, how long should this take. I checked the NH3 and it is still at 0. Good thing too. The fry's seem to be doing well and I am feeding them much less. The older ones are now eating first bites. The lonly one day old is getting the other frozen bits. only 1 drop. Should I just keep taking a bit of water out each and every morning and night? or will this mess up the cycle it may be going through? Last night I also added 2oz of "Cycle" I am just not sure if I am doing the right thing

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well, my tank is going throught a mini cycle. Tonight after 50% water change, NO2 .25, NO3 50 & NH3 0. I added more plants tonight. Ph is right were it should be. 8.0. I did add a bit of salt too. (only 1/2 dose) All fry's look great, still very active even 2 day newbe. Just need to keep my fingers crossed.

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Last night was a bad night. I should have just taken all the babies out and put them into the big tank, but I didn't. I lost 3 This morning I took the rest out, now they are in the large tank in the breeders net. On the bright side, I found a new fry in the large tank. I am half way thinking of letting the larger fry into the large tank out of the net. they are about 1/4" large. The only fish that could eat them would be the Rainbows. But on some sites I have seen that the rainbows won't eat them nor the eggs. I was just woundering how true this is? Longhair, you have rainbows and fry, what is your intake on this?

...Well fed parents do not eat the eggs or fry. But preferable the parents can be removed after a week or the mop can be removed on a daily basis and put in another fry rearing tank with the same water setup as the breeding tank...
http://madhunag.tripod.com/bosemanirainbow.html

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