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greenmonkey51![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1571 Kudos: 1692 Votes: 5 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | when i set up my 55g tank. im going to put the filter and gravel in there from my 20g. could i just take all the fish from the 20g and put it in the 55g. without cycling. im going to have a bigger filter too. |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | It won't cycle automatically, because you're going from a 20 gallon to a 55. You'll need more gravel than what the 20 contained. Even if that weren't the case, I'd expect a small mini-cycle at least. Better to be patient and be sure the fish are safe than to rush and have the fish die. Last edited by sirbooks at 29-Sep-2004 16:27 |
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DoctorJ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 344 Kudos: 1159 Votes: 191 Registered: 13-May-2003 ![]() ![]() | It would certainly speed things up, though! I wouldn't consider it automatically cycled in that you could immediately fully stock it. I'd still stock it slowly and carefully and do water testing. But this definitely sounds like the way to go. ![]() |
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greenmonkey51![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1571 Kudos: 1692 Votes: 5 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | but could i still take the fish from the 20g and immediatley transfer them |
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sirbooks![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You probably could, depending on what fish there are and how many. |
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Babelfish![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Administrator Small Fry with Ketchup Posts: 6833 Kudos: 8324 Votes: 1570 Registered: 17-Apr-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | If you're not adding any additional bioload IMO it should be okay, so long as you're careful during the move as far as a mini-cycle goes....however you'll need time for the bacteria to grow and develop on the glass and any new filters prior to increasing the stock. ^_^ ![]() ![]() |
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Gomer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Small Fry with BBQ Sauce Posts: 3602 Kudos: 1709 Votes: 106 Registered: 29-Mar-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Bacteria will die in the move. So you cannot escape the fact that there is risk of a mini-cycle. -- Gomer |
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FRANK![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 5108 Kudos: 5263 Votes: 1690 Registered: 28-Dec-2002 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hi, The bacterial colonies live on the surfaces of each grain of gravel. When you disturb them by scraping them together, drain the water, and then mix the old with the new gravel, you will damage, or kill of much off the established colonies. If you simply move the filter from one tank to the other without cleaning it, then you probably won't injure those colonies that much, if at all. Going from the 20 to the 55 tank, you probably can switch the fish as well. Be sure to use chlorine/chloramine remover with the new water. Be sure that the heater is correctly adjusted so the temp does not vary more than a degree or two between the two tanks. Lastly, because you are, in essence, starting a new tank expect the tank to cycle, a whole lot more than a "mini cycle." It will actually have to cycle as any new tank would. It will probably take less time as you are in effect, "Seeding" it with established bacteria. Test the water and watch the readings as with any newly cycling tank. Frank ![]() Last edited by FRANK at 01-Oct-2004 12:31 -->>> The Confidence of Amateurs, is the Envy of Professionals <<<-- |
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