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Probably. It won't do them any harm, although this depends on what exactly it removes from the water. If it removes all minerals and trace elements from the water, long term this isn't good for the fish unless you supplement/treat the new tank water.

yes, it removes ALL of everthing, i am guessing like R/O water although this does have a R/O on the side of the sink. It will also make my water too soft i think, so would sdding stress coat work for the slim? and should i use salt or potassem in the conditioner? any and all help is needed.

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also, how is this going to effect my pH?

Last edited by entkitty at 17-Jan-2005 20:30

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well, husband bought it. I don't know what i am going to do now.


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Sounds like your husband bought something like a Kinetico water conditioner. The unit is a water softener. It exchanges ions with salt to "soften" water.

Take a deep breath because the water that you will have will be absolutely fine for your fish! Trust me, I have one and it works fine, the fish enjoy the water and the word "soft" has nothing to do with the word "soft" that we use to describe our aquarium water!

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he bought a technetic plus. it's from http://www.h2otogo.net/
if you say not to panic, ok, but it is being installed tomorrow morning. I am just not sure how to balance it all out. (I have my fish to think about, heck with me) lol it seems to take out the Calcium, Magnesium, Lead, Iron, & Chlorine out (so what, i don't need to buy water conditioner again) but, how do i put back in what this machine is taking out and at the right amounts? what other test do i need now? how much is too much of Calcium or Magnesium. is the Salt that softens the water going to affect my elephant nose or my loaches? frankly, i am starting to think this sucks, i love my little guys. And yes, i am scared.

Last edited by entkitty at 17-Jan-2005 23:03

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Can you just use water from the garden tap etc. Or are all the water sources going to be affected?

I have a water conditioner that could be installed right now. Is this a no no for fish?? Remember, water conditioner not softner!!!! Soft water would be 1 ppm.

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Last edited by entkitty at 17-Jan-2005 18:48

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oh, and now he goes and buys and conditioner for the house. GREAT. maybe

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Deep breath. Hold it in. Exhale slowly. Repeat. Your blood pressure and respiration levels should be a little lower after that exercise.

So, you are going to have great water but little else in your house. None of those nasty water chemicals that make fins stand up straight. Outside, you will have liquid rock flowing from your taps. Oh, be sure that the outside taps have unconditioned water, you're going to use it in the garden, no need to waste your conditioned water.

Easiest thing to do will be to mix the water if you need to reconstitute your conditioned water. Let the new gadget run for 48 hours. Draw a sample from your tap and test it. Write down the results for KH, GH, pH. Do the same for an outside tap.

Take samples from each source and let them stand for 24 hours. Test them again, write them down.

You should be able to see the difference in test results. We ccan then determine the amount of outside water to combine with inside water for the water parameters that you want!

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Entkitty, I really have no idea what you are answering.
When you say water conditioner- I think of liquid stuff you pour in your water when you do a water change.
The only other two things I can think of are a Reverse Osmosis set up, or a Water Softening System.
I dont think either would harm your fish, but im sure there are consequences to the installation of either.


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Bob. why didn't I think of that. Wonderful. And, because I have a loop that this Water Conditioner goes through, my cold water in the kitchen will have all the hard metals, just not the worm or hot. Bob, where were you last earlier in the night when i needed you.

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Last edited by entkitty at 18-Jan-2005 10:29

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I don't have an RO unit or other water treatment equipment, but I have read about this stuff. Maybe Bob can comment on it or similar products. I don't know what your climate is, but maybe it won't be practical to mix hose water and your newly conditioned tap water. I don't know if this goes straigh into the tank, if you are using a python type set up, or if it needs to go in by other means (preconditioned).

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=4128&Ntt=reverse%20osmosis&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&N=2004+113075

Last edited by Cory_Di at 18-Jan-2005 10:46

Cory, i was just looking at that stuff on Big Als Online. however, i over heard one say, "Once you use RO Water, you can never go back" is this true? is it because of the additives being added? i feel as if i am getting over my head now with testing and adding stuff. I just hate adding crud to my tank but know some is needed.

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- I think that statement may be a positive statement about RO water, meaning it is so much better to get rid of the impurities and put back in only the minerals needed. You don't have all the junk. That's why discus keepers use it so much.

I'll have to leave comments about the product to those who know more than I. I just recalled seeing it and being aware that people add the minerals back in that are removed, to keep the water buffered. If you don't have a good kH, then the pH can fluctuate to easily. I'm not the most experienced person as to what that value is, but I'm sure Bob and others know.