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	Angel/Ram hybrid anyone?
covered-in-bees Fingerling I am not a mushroom! Posts: 47 Kudos: 36 Votes: 20 Registered: 16-Mar-2005	Yesterday, while buying new fish, the lfs I was at had angel/bolivian ram hybrids. Anyone ever heard of that one? They looked like rams. I didn't buy any, but now am wondering if I should have. Would have been interesting to see how they turned out. "Constant vigilance!" Mad-Eye Moody
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
blazeherd2306 Small Fry Posts: 7 Kudos: 6 Votes: 0 Registered: 07-Jul-2005	If you are talking about angelfish/ram hybrids, then it is impossible.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
bettachris Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004	i would say that hybred=no. don't forget that most lfs will change the names of the fishes, for example high fin loach = chinese loach high fin dolly loach, high fin shark bull shark etc. and they all = the same fish. my guess is that it is a ballon ram.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
littlemousling Conchiform Posts: 5230 Registered: 23-Aug-2003	Actually, it is possible - and it's been done. Sad but true. That said, some of the fish sold as hybrids aren't, which isn't to say I'd recommend buying them. -Molly Visit shelldwellers.com!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	Has been done? You mean angels breeding with rams? No, actually it is quite impossible. The two go down extrememly different paths on the SA cichlid family tree.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
littlemousling Conchiform Posts: 5230 Registered: 23-Aug-2003	They do indeed but we all know that the once-sure definitions of species aren't as accurate anymore. It's certainly astonishing (and quite unfortunate) but it's happened. I've seen them; a few members here own them. I believe the archives have some information about them, if the search feature's working, and there's probably a few threads at Cichlid-forum as well. -Molly Visit shelldwellers.com!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Cup_of_Lifenoodles Fish Guru Posts: 2755 Kudos: 1957 Votes: 30 Registered: 09-Sep-2004	You should check again. If by angel rams you mean the long finned strain or the long finned balloon ram, then yes, there are such fish, but they are not hybrids, merely the culmination of much selective mutation, if you will. Ram angelfish hybrids do not exist, and unless you can find any real evidence (because I sure can't), my verdict stands. Last edited by Cup_of_Lifenoodles at 08-Jul-2005 02:05
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
covered-in-bees Fingerling I am not a mushroom! Posts: 47 Kudos: 36 Votes: 20 Registered: 16-Mar-2005	The guy at that lfs said that's what he had, angel/ram hybrids. I don't know if he bred them or if he got them from somewhere else. I was just curious if it was possible. Like I said, they looked like rams to me. "Constant vigilance!" Mad-Eye Moody
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Annasmommy Big Fish Posts: 407 Kudos: 569 Votes: 1 Registered: 11-Feb-2004	Ram mutation, NOT A ANGELFISH AND RAM CROSS!!!! I'll pay anyone $100 if they can prove it's a hybrid between the two species. It would have to be a genetic experiment done in a test tube, and the chance of survival is incredibly poor. Look into balloon rams, and if the lfs insists it's a cross, don't shop there! They're only trying to turn a buck .
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
jasonpisani Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 5553 Kudos: 7215 Votes: 1024 Registered: 24-Feb-2003	Ram & Angel hybrid, impossible. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/s8xi5heh/my_photos http://www.geocities.com/s8xi5heh/classic_blue.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buzaqq/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydoras/ Member of the Malta Aquarist Society - 1970. http://www.maltaaquarist.com
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