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zachf92![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 343 Kudos: 255 Votes: 233 Registered: 31-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | df&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:VFMEQ4Bpz9EJ:www-personal.umich.edu/~roldfiel/Salty%2520cichlids.pdf+salty+cichlid+filetype ![]() I thought this was really interesting and i just wanted to share it with everyone ![]() |
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bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | i think this is a dangiours type as sometimes it will give people the idea of dumpuing a FW fish in SW. while like the article said, some cichlids do ok in salt, as most fish do, this doesn't always include full saltwater, just FW with some salt in the water. this is a topic that has been going back and back, as a few months earlier i remember a member who knew a guy that claimed to move a SW clownfish to FW, and the fish looked in horrible conditions. i am sure that their are fishes like that, but most being brackish that can handle this change, but it is a slow process. i would recommend that it shouldn't be done, as their is no point. and no good that can come from this, and i also been noticing that for science projects alot of younger kids are using fish in experiments(which is a topic of its own) and i would never recommend trying this ever. as you can tell i feel strongly about this topic not been done. (not saying that anyone would this) ![]() |
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zachf92![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 343 Kudos: 255 Votes: 233 Registered: 31-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | i agree wih you. im not saying people should try this, i just thought it was really cool. |
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african_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 167 Kudos: 139 Votes: 2 Registered: 27-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | I tend to agree with chris. whilst the article was interesting, from a scientific point of veiw, in my opinion aquarists should completly disregard it. there is no point in putting FW fish in salt water setups. i cant see wat advantage it would give you aside from the point that there are thousands of saltwater fish that would look better than an unhappy FW fish in a salt water tank. anyone thinking of it should have their fish taken off them ![]() |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | yes, this is rather disturbing. People always seem to want to stick fish where they don't belong naturally, and dont relise how much stress that can cause a fish ![]() Also, I think with kids it depends on the experiement and how responceable they are. Im not saying they should do experiements like, "How many goldfish can I cram into this salad bowl?", but I think that things like "If I crossbreed a cobra guppy (M) with regular fancytail females what colors would I get?" Could be benificial assuming that they take good care of theparents and offspring. Thats just my opinion. ![]() ![]() |
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bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | with teh breeding thing, that has its ups and downs but for example i recently have a person that asked a question on why his bettas were dieing(4 of them) and didn't know anything about water conditions, and he told me he was doing an experiment on how well fishes adopt to water, which kinda really annoyed me, as i feel very strongly about b/c espiscally bettas fish are not test animals, and i find trying to see what betta does better depending on water conditoners is worest than fitting an large fish in a small tank, in my opition that is horrible to test fish on. |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Thats horrible ![]() Some experiements can be really cruel, and others can be harmless. People need to do the research before they start. I agree with you, and I don't think people should experiment with things that tests the fishs limits like that. Its just wrong. ![]() ![]() |
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zachf92![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 343 Kudos: 255 Votes: 233 Registered: 31-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | since were all talking cruelty to fish, i just want to ask you guys what you think about those "glow danios"? (i know its kind of random) i saw them today and i was just thinking about them |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | Injecting a fish is evil ![]() I dont approve at all. Glow Danios arnt injected are they? I thought it was done to show the effects of pollution and they started breeding them that way or something like that? The best way to say what I feel is this: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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fishyhelper288![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Posts: 2161 Kudos: 1951 Votes: 137 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 | personaly i am more attracted to salt water fish that look like a fresh water fish, i think salt water fish appear un natural (even though they are) the only fish i like that has realy good color is the betta, but i suppose thats because i adore genetics ![]() ![]() i say, if you want fresh water, get a fresh water tank, and if you want salt water, get a salt water tank..hard concept i know ![]() |
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bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | i would leave this be, as it is off topic and the real topic is about mixing SW and FW fishes together. back on topic, while their are fishes that can switch it must be a long process and their are somefish that can handle it well and others that can't. for examples: striped bass, salmon, tarpon, snook, mollies, etc..... |
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zachf92![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Big Fish Posts: 343 Kudos: 255 Votes: 233 Registered: 31-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | youre right. this really is off topic and ill make a mew thread right now. |
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bcwcat22![]() Big Fish Posts: 395 Kudos: 314 Votes: 34 Registered: 16-Jul-2005 ![]() ![]() | |
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bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | well tech they are, when in egg form they are injected with jelly fish genes to make them glow. but again that is off topic. and the fish injecting is a completely different topic. |
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Inkling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 689 Kudos: 498 Votes: 11 Registered: 07-Dec-2005 ![]() ![]() | When you say injecting, Im thinking more of Jelly Bean Parrots and colored glass fish? (not sure what there called- little see thru fish that have brite colored stripes that are not natural) Mollys can live in brackish water, but Im pretty sure they would die in a SW tank rather quickly. Just buy a SW fish for your SW aquarium. It seems to work out quite well ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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bettachris![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3875 Kudos: 4173 Votes: 452 Registered: 13-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | in some cases like target fish for example, they are FW and SW and brackish, but i think it is a long transition phase. |
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sham![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3369 Kudos: 2782 Votes: 98 Registered: 21-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Mollies can live in saltwater, freshwater, and everything in between. Provided they are acclimated correctly and slowly their lifespan is about the same in both sw and fw. It's best though to leave them in the same salinity they were born in. Acclimating to a salinity so far apart is stressful and could be damaging even if the fish can adjust and survive the end result. Glofish were initially injected with a gene as eggs but now you can breed 2 glofish and the offspring will still carry the gene. They are not being continually injected. |
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