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i'm trying to plan my 25 gallon tank and i want angels and convicts is 2 angels and 1 convict good ? could i have a small school of catfish also? how many gallons for one angelfish and how many gallons for one convict?

first and foremost, let's address compatibility.

putting Angelfish with convicts would not be a good idea. Convicts get way too aggressive for the slow swimming angelfish. Both fish would need a lot more room than just a 25 gallon, but if you MUST get one or the other, you can get away with TWO convicts and NOTHING else...and that's if you keep up with regular water changes.

I personally would reccommend getting something else...something less agressive and something that doesn't get too big. maybe some rams and a couple schools of tetras?

If your wanting to have cichlids in your 25 gallon rams, dwarfs, or shellies are probably going to be about your only choice for a tank that size.Anything else just gets to big. Are possibly consider going with something else.

is there anything that acts like a cichlid but isn't one

i'm really just wanting a bigish aggressive fish

could i have a kissing gourami & 4 yoyo loaches

i know that the kissing gourami grows 30 cm but at one of my LFS they said 50 litres and mine is 25 gallons .

also the book i have says that a tank of 60cm ( long ) is the minimum .

I believe with the kissing gourami you are pushing the bare minium size tank it would need. As far as something that acts like a cichlid, If it looks like a cichlid and acts like a cichlid then its probably a cichlid. Have you considered maybe something semi aggressive along the lines of maybe tiger barbs.

i want tiger barbs but my sister has them and won't let me buy anything that she has:#(:#(:#(

could i put just a kissing gourami , no loaches?

You probably could but lets be honest you don't want to have a 25 gallon tank with only 1 kissing gouami in it. If your sisters got tiger barbs maybe you could go with a shoal of albino and green tiger barbs or maybe even go with a shoal of some type tetra.

I like the idea of adding some Blue/or Bolivian Rams.

Also some Gold Barbs would be a nice choice.

the answer is simple...get a bigger tank...or get a brichardii aka fairy cichlid they stay small and are one of the meanest small fish out there.

brichardii

get a male and female so they pair up wohoo. these pretty little princess' would rip tiger barbs to shreds in seconds especielly if protecting babies.

ok honestly i think these guys are a bad idea. they require a bit of fish know how and im assumeing you are of the younger sort. so ill suggest Bolivian rams, these guys are pretty, small , and will pair up for ya. they swim side by side as a couple if you get them to pair. they arnt insanely agressive. they would leave you plenty of room in the tank for a school of harlies and maybe a trio of yoyos or cories.

anyway they will leave you with alot of options and they ARE cichlids. they wont destroy a tank of fish with agression but they are still cichlids.

How about a pair of kribs? They're smallish and can take care of themselves.

true brichardii do need quite good water quality and things can get a bit messy when they start stressing things to death because of constant harassment... i think rams are your go.

I think rams can live nicely with angelfish, I'm not sure though. some tetras would go nicely with them all.

I agree with Doctor J. Kribs will go well in a 25, can have a biggish cichlid attitude(at times), and are quite pretty. Also they are fun to breed too.