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	Rams for my 20g
Jerm Small Fry Posts: 2 Kudos: 2 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Dec-2005	I've heard that corys and rams may not be a good idea as if the males are spawning and getting over-territorial they may attack the corys and or tear out their eyes.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	Live plants will be just fine. My Bolivian rams live in a jumbled assortment of plants, and don't pay them any heed. Rams may possibly knock loose a weakly-rooted plant if they crash into it on accident, but at wouldn't happen often. Rams really won't damage plants at all. In fact, live plants are recommended for both species of rams because they seem to make the fish feel at home. And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
dvmchrissy Big Fish Posts: 477 Kudos: 301 Votes: 38 Registered: 09-Oct-2005	I much prefer Bolivian to Germans. I will be getting some for my 55 Gallon Tank as soon as I finally get to move, and set it up. You should look at Tetratech's tank log. He has a pair of bolivians in his tank and they are awesome! http://fishprofiles.com/files/forums/Planted%20Aquaria/64496_27.html Definitely go with Bolivians and a good sized school of Cories. That will do well in your tank. You should do a log on it so that everyone can see what your tank looks like! Good Luck with your tank. I hope it does well! Christina
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	do plants work in this tank? or do rams pull em out as many other cichlids do? -thanks
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
inlikefish Hobbyist Posts: 132 Kudos: 64 Votes: 2 Registered: 18-Oct-2003	i have the bolivian rams with panda cories and juli cories. They live fine together and the ram doesn't even notice the cories.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	Whichever species of ram you choose should be fine with Corydoras catfish. I have kept my assorted cories with both German and Bolivian rams, and there have been no notable issues. I think that adding the catfish before the rams would help to deter any territorial behavior towards the cories, as the rams would not be inclined to view them as intruders. Either way though, they will most likely get along together. Breeding rams may work to drive off Corydoras which get too close to their nesting site, but rarely cause much damage. And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
So_Very_Sneaky Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 3238 Kudos: 2272 Votes: 201 Registered: 10-Mar-2004	Hi there, I personally prefer the Bolivian Rams. Mature adults are amazing in coloration. They have amazing personalities and super dynamic social behaviour. I have 5, 2 males and 3 females in my 75g tank. There are also 7 corys in the tank. They get along fine. I would very highly recommend Bolivian Rams. [/font][/font][/font] Come Play Yahtzee With Me! http://games.atari.com Http://www.myleague.com/yahtgames
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	Thanks all for the great responses. anyone else have corys + rams mix?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Tetra Fan Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004	That is an overexagoration. Rams do not get THAT agressive. They may nip at cory's, though I have never heard of them ripping their eyes out. I also keep Rams with cory's and the Rams recently had there first spawn and I still have all 10 of my cory's...and they all still have both of their eyes. Last edited by Tetra Fan at 17-Dec-2005 18:59
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	I'm looking to get some rams for my 20 gal ( 20 lbs of sand, rock caves and a little bit of java moss) I know there are two types , and i was wondering what you would reccomend, I like livley, colorfull fish. Also if anyone has much experience with them id like to know how hard they are to maintain. Will territory be an issue in a 20 gal? and how many can i keep? thanks so much. 1)http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12150520480bn.jpg 2)http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12150520474qr.jpg 3)http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12150520462xe.jpg Last edited by iceterran at 15-Dec-2005 20:00
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Tetra Fan Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004	Sand is actually better for them because they like to dig. Rounded pebbles work too because they like to mouth the substrate. I keep mine with sand and there is no obvious problem.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	will sand be a problem for them? ( I think ill get blues)
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
jasonpisani Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 5553 Kudos: 7215 Votes: 1024 Registered: 24-Feb-2003	Rams are quite nice & clolurful fish, but don't overstock the tank, as they will fight for territory. Try to get a pair & hopefully you'll see some fry. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/s8xi5heh/my_photos http://www.geocities.com/s8xi5heh/classic_blue.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buzaqq/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydoras/ Member of the Malta Aquarist Society - 1970. http://www.maltaaquarist.com
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inlikefish Hobbyist Posts: 132 Kudos: 64 Votes: 2 Registered: 18-Oct-2003	personally, I LOVE the bolivian Ram. By far my favorite ram. The german ram, ive heard, is harder to take care of then the bolivian. The bolivians are gorgeous.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	thanks so much that sounds really cool.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Tetra Fan Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004	Blue Rams do stay small, but require a lot of space for territory. I have 4 Blue Rams in my 55 gallon tank and they fight like crazy, I can't imagine having more than a pair in a 20 gallon. I would probably say 2 Rams, 6 Cory's and maybe a small school of tetras...depends if you want to raise fry or not. If you do go with blue rams take your time acclimating them...they can be pretty uncomfortable with change so go slowly.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
Iceterran Fingerling Posts: 24 Kudos: 18 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Oct-2005	am i really limited to 2 rams for a 20 gal =/? dont they stay pretty small?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:01
GirlieGirl8519 Fish Master Malawi Planter Posts: 1468 Kudos: 1029 Votes: 35 Registered: 25-Mar-2005	I think German (Blue) Rams are more colorful than Bolivians. I have one female in my 55g and she has colored up quite nicely. I don't know about territory in a 20g. I think as long as you get a male and a female, if you are planning on getting 2, then it should be fine. There would only be a territory problem if you got 2 males. As long as there are hiding places and such, you should be fine. My girl swims with the tetras sometimes, and other times keeps to herself. A very beautiful fish.:%) *Kristin*
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