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	Should I Overcrowd?
john.stone Banned Posts: 1600 Kudos: 2332 Votes: 18 Registered: 03-Apr-2003	Yeah, I think you should have 6 at the most.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
Mr Fish Addict Posts: 573 Kudos: 304 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Jul-2003	That is what I assumed because to catch the others I had to take out 75% of the rocks in the tank.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
acei Big Fish Posts: 316 Kudos: 291 Votes: 1 Registered: 18-Mar-2004	give them some time. they are probably stressed from the fishnet action.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
Mr Fish Addict Posts: 573 Kudos: 304 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Jul-2003	I have taken the socolofis to an lfs and I kept the yellow labs but I have seen them once or twice. They are now extremely timid.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
openwater Fish Addict Posts: 565 Kudos: 551 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Jul-2004	For that tank I second the peacocks.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
acei Big Fish Posts: 316 Kudos: 291 Votes: 1 Registered: 18-Mar-2004	i agree with MR CIHLID completely. it is a very small tank as far as african cichlids are concerned. much better off as a species tank. personally, i would lose the mbuna and go with a trio of the peacocks you noted. they will not get 6" and you should have a lot of spawning and great color from the male. or...go with a single mbuna species, especially if you are concerned about aggression. the more species you have, the more aggression will usually occur. not a strick rule, but that is the way it tends to happen. i would keep the numbers to 4 fish.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
MR_CICHLID Fish Addict Posts: 770 Kudos: 582 Votes: 124 Registered: 12-Aug-2003	I agree with no Peacocks, as mentioned above for all the same reasons.... Overcrowding is a good trick to help with aggression in a Mbuna tank. however, It's a 30g we're talkin' about..... In my opinion you should get rid of the socolofi, forget the rusty's although they would be a good match to your yellow's you really don't ahve the room for a multi species tank. You'll have the best results if you keep your tank a species tank, with 1M, 3F.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
ACIDRAIN Moderator Posts: 3162 Kudos: 1381 Votes: 416 Registered: 14-Jan-2002	Your problem is that the electric yellows are not nearly as aggressive as the socolofi. Yes, I agree that you should get rid of the socolofi. Rustys should do nice with the electric yellows. _____________________________________________________________ There is always a bigger fish...
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
just beginning Moderator Literature Nerd Posts: 1879 Kudos: 1380 Votes: 198 Registered: 17-Dec-2000	Also, aulonocara really need more swimming room. Some of them can reach 5-6", and they are more open-water fish than the rock-dwelling mbuna. I'd go with the trio of rustys and the trio of electric yellows. The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. - Oscar Wilde
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
Mr Fish Addict Posts: 573 Kudos: 304 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Jul-2003	I have a 30gal mbuna tank with 3 yellow labs (1m/2f) and 3 pseudotropeus socolofi(1m/2f). I have been having some problems with aggresion as the male socolofi has taken over and I was thinking of overcrowding. What should I add to make an ideal setup? Is it a good idea to overcrowd this tank?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
openwater Fish Addict Posts: 565 Kudos: 551 Votes: 0 Registered: 24-Jul-2004	That is overstocked. I would go with the trio of peacocks or just with the labs. I never keep rusty so I won't comment on them. 9 cichlid of those size would definitely be overstocked.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
Mr Fish Addict Posts: 573 Kudos: 304 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Jul-2003	I was thinking also of adding rusty cichlids. Has anyone had a problem with this combination? I have a lot of rocks, 2 large pots, and a smaller pot. For a final stock list I was thinking 3 yellow labs (1m/2f), 3 Rusty cichlids (1m/2f), and 3 Aulonocara stuartgranti sp. Chilumba (1m/2f). Does anyone think that there will be a problem with this combination?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
krige Big Fish Posts: 405 Kudos: 1088 Votes: 377 Registered: 24-Jul-2003	Auloncara will be fine with yellow labs, I have 2 different auloncara with yellow labs,red zebra's ,maylandia greshakei and an electric blue Hap and a bristlenose and all are fine no aggression but the tank is well designed with rockwork to enable hiding places and holes to dissappear into if needs be. Gibson SG you know you want one!!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
greenmonkey51 Fish Master Posts: 1571 Kudos: 1692 Votes: 5 Registered: 28-Jan-2004	get rid of the scolofi and get another yellow lab then you should be good. also overcrowding usually only used in mbuna tanks. Last edited by greenmonkey51 at 05-Dec-2004 16:30
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
john.stone Banned Posts: 1600 Kudos: 2332 Votes: 18 Registered: 03-Apr-2003	Aulonocara are not compatible with your mbunas.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
Mr Fish Addict Posts: 573 Kudos: 304 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-Jul-2003	I am thinking that I will trade the socolofis and get Rusty cichlids. I am also considering a trio of an aulonocara species. I might also get a third female for each species. Do you think that this would be a good setup?
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
krige Big Fish Posts: 405 Kudos: 1088 Votes: 377 Registered: 24-Jul-2003	It can be possible to overcrowd and it is a common thing to do in cichlid tanks.Cichlid recipe.com a specialist cichlid site has overstocking lists for different sizes of tank.Filtration has to be vastly improved and water changes have to be frequent as nitrate is not tolerated well by most malawi species.Bear in mind that lake malawi's reefs are teeming with fish. Also bear in mind that some fish just wont go together. Last edited by krige at 05-Dec-2004 04:57 Gibson SG you know you want one!!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 11:20
jasonpisani Ultimate Fish Guru Posts: 5553 Kudos: 7215 Votes: 1024 Registered: 24-Feb-2003	It's never good to overcrowd a tank, especially with Cichlids, as they are a bit aggressive. You can add some more rocks & more hiding places, but i think that the aggression will remain, as it's common with Cichlids. :88):88):88) http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydoras/ Member of the Malta Aquarist Society - 1970. http://www.maltaaquarist.com
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