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just gt back a few hours ago i got 2 bolivian rams i wanted blue but they dident have any, and plus! these were on sale for 4 bucks!! SOOOOOOOOOOOO happy pics soon to come, they are still aclimating right now, already put a few cups in and took some out, i hope i got a male and female, bt i dont kanw how to tell any help?

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bolivians are a bit harder then blues to sex. ignore the front rays they arnt gona help ya. look at the dorsal,tail and the bottom fin. the dorsal will be rounded, the tail wotn have any points, and the bottom fin will be rounded if its a female. also females are smaller. and i know this soudns weird but i thinkt he female rams look female in the face. they have a more rounded look to the eyes and over all face i dont know.

anyway the biggest tell is the tail and dorsal. these 2 will have points and extentions if its a male.

oh by the way best of luck with the rams. even if they arnt m/f i promise you wont be returning one. far to entertaining to have just one

thanx, they realy arnt clean looking well one of them isnt, the clean looking on (with the one spot on the side) went completely pale durring travel but as soon as i started floating, i started to see some striping, pics will come tomorrow, i will go down and check on them, i will post back with what i think

i got a male and female im so happy because im not going back up there for a month but im so happy and, i just released them, will they bond? they are in a 29 gallon, oh, i hope they will i am in the middle of planting it, and finding my final stockingin there i have guppies, bettas, ottos, corys, zebra danios, and a minnow, i want to return, some guppy fry, the danios, and i want to move the female bettas up into 10 gallon, and maybe even all the guppies, so the tank would be the ottos, corys, rams, and the minnow, thats for now though

Congratulations on your new fish. Only time will tell if they'll bond or not. Enjoy.

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Water, taken in moderation, cannot hurt anybody. -- Mark Twain

well, after i posted that, i went down there again, and the male was following the female she twitch, he twich sort of thing it's real cute i gues im guna have to get a move on live planting it and i am finishing my sanding today and guess what? when i got 2 plants, i got like 4 MYS i have wanted them for my sand tank for forever, how long will they take to be a problem? (notthat i think its possible with these cute little guys) should i seperate them for breeding?, like wait for a few clutches of eggs, (or r the live bearing, think i heard about that) or, ah, snail fry thanxs for all the help