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type & number would be appropriate to grow out in a 29 gallon tank? I am starting a new tank & I want to start with juvenille africans (all the same species) fish and let them grow. How many & which species would thrive in a 29 gallon?

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I would say Neolamprologugus leleupi and about 7 or eight of them in there but have rocks and caves for them! Or get kribs about the same number and always get more female than males for both of these fish!

I don't think there would be enough space for 7-8 neolamprologus lelupi. Maybe 5 to 6 tops. Always get a 2-1 female to male ratio. Also sand is a very good substrate for these species. They would thrive at that number in a 29 gal.

[span class="edited"][Edited by Robofish 2004-07-14 08:35][/span]

Is this just for grow out purposes or will they remain in there? If they stay in there Neolamprologous leleupi form pairs like all other Neolamprologous. You can start of with 5-6 juvies but once a pair forms you have to remove the other fish or the pair will remove them for you. I would try Neolamprologous brichardi or pulcher insted since they also form pairs but once they have fry the older fry help raising/ protecting the next generation younger fry once they mate again.

You could go with some shell-dwellers.

Either multies]http://www.fishprofiles.com/profiles/fw/profile.asp?id=Neolamprologus+multifasciatus[/link] or [link=ocellatus.

I think you could go with 8 multies (6f/2m) or maybe 5(4f/1m) ocellatus.

The multies would definitely fill the tank for you. They say ocellatus are more difficult to breed. They aren't the brightest looking fish, but their behaviour makes up for it.

[span class="edited"][Edited by johnsmith 2004-07-14 10:59][/span]

Get some electric yellows they will like the tank if there are caves and hiding places plus they are a very beautiful fish, maybe a peacock also

With multies, I think it would be better for a 20g long or something shorter. They don't dwell at the top much. I would say if you wanted shellies, also get some ditherfish, like a school of tetra or something. I also think Rams would work too. Maybe 6-8?

Tetras would not survive in the high pH and hardness that shellies require. Shellies don't need dither fish anyway I don't think. I would say maybe 1 pair or 2 pairs of kribs might fit. Oh and Rams are south American, he said he wanted African cichlids.

[span class="edited"][Edited by Tetra Fan 2004-07-15 10:42][/span]

Depends what type of fish you are looking for.

Americans
1 Pair of Convicts
or
2 pairs of Rams with mixed tetras
or
1 Pair of acaras, mixed dithers.
or
Pair of Angels or Discus

Kribs are also an attractive pair, you can fit one or two pairs.

Malawians would do better in a larger tank. Usually people get electric yellows, a small colony,usually around 5.
Tanganyikans will give you a greater selection, from shell dwellers, to other species. More common species would be brichardis, daffodils, leleupis, calvus and compressiceps.

Usually you would do about 3 females : 1 male for brichardis daffodils and leleupis.

Calvus and compressiceps would be 1 male : 2 females.



[span class="edited"][Edited by inkodinkomalinko 2004-07-15 15:35][/span]

Shellies don't need dither fish anyway I don't think.

I was just suggesting that so the tank will be more lively. It would make more upper movement.

Anyways, I think rams would be a good choice.

Folks,

Thanks for all the info. In regards to keeping rams, I have in the past, so this time I'm specifically looking to do africans.

The two I like most are the electric yellows and the orange zebras. I'm not sure what the scientific name of the orange zebras is. If I were to do either, what would be the best number of juveniles to start with?

start with maybe 6 juvies.

Do a trio of electric yellows for the 29 gallon, zebras get aggressive.

yellow get aggressive too.

"yellow get aggressive too."

Not as aggressive as zebras, thats why you see alot of people with electric yellow tanks, and people with zebras have fish mixed in with it.