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If someone wanted to put a Wolf ( 28" ), a Jaguar ( 18" ), a Ocellaris (?24"? what size do they grow too?) and a Gibbiceps pleco ( 20" ) in the same tank, what size would it have to be?

Last edited by nattereri at 16-Feb-2005 20:52

Wolf Cichlids (Dovii) need at least a 300 gallon tank themselves since they have a habit of attacking the glass and any/everything else in the tank...

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for that many fish of that size and aggresion i'd say 700+

Daka<<<<

as the others have already said, you'd need an enormous tank. even in a tank of such size though the jag and dovii still may not get along. most Parachromis species don't do well with other Parachromis species.

just out of curiousity would one or the other work with a pleco? or are both intolerant of other fish of any kind?

as adults i woodnt want to b the pleco
ive seen a 3" dovii back down 9 6"+ redbellies had them all in a corner
it may work i dont no for sure ive never kept any of them but as for size use a pool lol

What about a Wolf (Dovii) and a Peacock (Ocellaris)? (with the gibbiceps)

Last edited by nattereri at 17-Feb-2005 20:35

if by peacock u mean african peacock
that wood b an expensive snack for a jag
the jag n pleco mite work depends on the individual fish

Peacock Bass = common name for "cichla" ocellaris... American cichlid...

And would it change anything if they were added together at a small size with the Gibbiceps already in the tank and a larger size?
If not, what other catfish grow to approx 2 feet and can hold their own?

sorry for the confusion bout the peacock

i wood think size does matter n also the timing of which fish go in first
ive never kept a peacock bass or dovii but i do have sm bass from time to time n piranhas
with my piranhas if there in the tank first they kill plecos no matter how big
if the pleco is in first then them they ignore it
small mouf bass r like the same jsut with alot more aggression n larger appitite then the piranhas
maybe they wont act the same but that is my guess

as for a catfish that can hold its own if u got a small bullhead catfish they grow quick to 14-16" then slow rite down theydo get larger then 2 feet but it takes 5-6 years n they can hold there own can even survive outta water for more then 2 hours

It is Very doubtful still, that you will have a large enough tank to house a cichla species. Those guys get a good, or well over 2-3 feet and need clear, pristine water so that they don't get HITH. I know that Pam Chin has a Cichla sp. in a 100G tank by itself...so a tank of about 300G is needed for a single, adult specimen.

If you are set on getting a guapote...why not get a pair of Istlanum...a pair can reside in a 75G.

HTH

If you are set on getting a guapote...why not get a pair of Istlanum...a pair can reside in a 75G

the istlanum is a remarkable and gorgeous fish and yes a pair would do great in a 75. however, if you want to get technical they are not a Guapote. The term Guapote is restricted to the 5 Parachromis species and Petenia splendida.

I doubt that a dovii will work with any other cichlids unless you plan on a 1,000+ gallon tank. Cichla ocellaris I believe is one of the smaller species of Cichla though these also reach in excess of 2 feet in length. an 8' x 3' tank may suffice for a couple of ocellaris.

Say it was a 7'x4' tank, if I were to put a Dovii, nothing else (Gibbiceps or other catfish?) could be put in the tank? even if the Dovii was added last at a much smaller size? I beleive Dovii and Ocellaris both usually attain 28".

Gosh Jason, always gotta prove me wrong....atleast not on aquamojo! I wasn't really sure if they were guapote, guess I should have reached back in my brain a bit further

I am not sure why you are so set on having these massive fish, but I still would not suggest anything less of 500G for one dovii. Yes, maybe ocellaris is one of the smaller cichla sp. it is still unsuitable for the average aquarist.

I wasn't really sure if they were guapote, guess I should have reached back in my brain a bit further

Istlanum, grammodes and beani are often referred to as Guapotes on some sites. In fact I've seen several times the name "Green Guapote" given to beani. But, technically they're not...at least at the moment. Each of these species are right now in the exCichlasoma genus awaiting further study and classification. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see grammodes wind up in the Parachromis genus. Not too sure about istlanum and beani though...they seemed to fit in the Nandopsis genus in my opinion. Hopefully before long the "experts" will make up their minds and these species will get a permanent genus.