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lso, according to the dozens of sites I went to, 10 gallons is more than adequate for an angelfish. The recommendations varied from 6 gallons per up to 10 gallons per but none said each angelfish required more than ten gallons.

this was stated by a member ... anywho this isn't important, what is, is the info, i think this is wrong info that a person(not from this site) gave another, i suggested that an angel fish is best in a 29 high, but they think an adult is fine in a 10, i think they dont know that they grow up and down.

anyway, i am mislead, or is this info right.

They prolly meant 10 gals of water per angel when fully grown, not the tank size. Yes you are correct with a 29/30g. Hence a 30g could hold 3 angels, but I would not do that.

It all depends on their water regime. I know of several people that keep their full grown breeders in 10gal tanks. When I used to breed angels, I kept them in 10 and 20 gal tanks. But, I, and those I know, have/had a regime of 20% water changes twice per week when doing this. It all depends on how much work they want to do, and what kinds of angels they are working with.

I would not recommend to a newbie or begginer to do it this way.

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There is always a bigger fish...

Even with water changes my angel would not comfortably fit in a 10g. It would hardly be able to swim around except side to side a short distance. That sounds extremely boring and uncomfortable. For short term a 20high might work but for long term I wouldn't put mine in less than a 29g. It comes down to do you want the fish to live or do you want it to thrive and enjoy swimming around the tank? I don't stock my tanks based on what fits well enough to live but whether they have a comfortable amount of space to truly swim and not just float around always using nothing but their pectoral fins to move.

thats what i meant acid, this info was told a beginner and i think that since a common ten gallon is less than 12 inches deep, without gravel/water levels etc.... that an adult angel will have enough room to fully grow the extended lower rays,

i know my young 4 inch angels in a 55 high, are already 7 inches tall, and to me it sounds like stunting in a ten.

A human being can survive in a 200 square foot room for life, but will they be as happy as if they were in a 1400 sq ft home? Same thing goes with fish/dogs/etc. I doubt too much stunting would happen with an angel in a 10, but??? would you want to be in its "shoes" ? Treat everything as you would treat yourself.

Nice one stallion, thats the approach we need. People should be looking to exceed the minimum standards of care,not live right up to the limit of the minimum.

I often think its so little money to actually upgrade the living space a bit compared to the long term maintenance of the fish that you have to wonder if someone who wants to go with minimum sizes is really mentally or financially ready for the hobby.

Always go bigger when you can, and as much as is feasible allow the fish to really show you a spectrum of behaviours.It can only improve its health and longevity, and avoids a lot of water quality crashes and so on.

With angels id go for a 30 for 2 at least, up to 100 gal plus for a small shoal.In a 10 an adult angel would barely be able (read - NOT ABLE) to move without its fins scraping the substrate.A lot of people ask if angels need long or tall tanks. That would be BOTH.Or in translation- BIG.

Yeah, my largest DD Black could not even reasonably fit in a ten gallon. I suppose if you were to apply the above rule in fish per gallons approach, it would be okay, and even then quite cramped (aka 2 fish per twenty gallons). But as we all know, fish per gallon rules are bogus.

All breeders I've kept were removed into a twenty tall with little more than an airstone and sponge filter, and they were fine.