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Perky![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1064 Kudos: 1036 Votes: 162 Registered: 24-Nov-2003 ![]() ![]() | CLK, you are nuts, Firemouths ain't the best. You want 4 Keyhole Cichlids, 2 Featherfin Catfish and a pair of Rams. |
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Clown_Loach_Kid![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | or u could get a pair of FIREMOUTH cichlids in there ![]() firemouths ![]() ![]() good luck ![]() 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out .. |
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livebait![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 211 Kudos: 242 Votes: 76 Registered: 25-May-2004 ![]() ![]() | I say Midas/Red Devil ![]() |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | keep in mind, a jack dempsey would be fine its entire life in a 55 gallon whereas a red devil will eventually become cramped and would do better in a larger tank as it reaches adulthood unless you wind up with a female ![]() Jason |
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Doedogg![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 408 Kudos: 737 Votes: 445 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I am leaning towards a Red Devil or a Jack Dempsey. Steph ~ Mae West |
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songbird1963![]() Enthusiast Posts: 238 Votes: 0 Registered: 09-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | A Gold Severum is beautiful and has personality but quite peaceful IMO. They get 9 inches I think. Mine was about 5 inches long when he died...I had him in my community tank and he didnt bother anyone. [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-06-13 12:40][/span] |
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Jimmy22![]() Fish Addict Posts: 582 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-Jun-2003 ![]() ![]() | My JDs are cool but they are quite shy if there arnt any other fish in the tank. Look at it from the fishes point of view if there arnt any other fish swimming around somthing has to be eating them so he wwill just stay in his cave where he feels safe. So i think it would be better to get somthing like a convict that doesn't get as big that you can keep sme other fish with. |
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rennie_911![]() Hobbyist Posts: 60 Kudos: 17 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-May-2003 ![]() ![]() | should be ok in 55g gallon for 2 - 3 years maybe even 4. then you can either by a bigger tank or sell te oscar on. |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I would recommend 75 gallons minimum for an oscar. the extra 6" width will be very beneficial to the oscar as it approaches 14-16", which they can easily do with proper diet, water quality and tank size. ![]() Jason |
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rainbow13![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fingerling Posts: 38 Kudos: 50 Votes: 0 Registered: 04-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | can i keep an oscar in a 55??? Ive been pondering this for some time. I would nly keep one and that would be the only BIG fish in the tank i was thinking like some kind of clean up crew. any suggestions post um here. |
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rennie_911![]() Hobbyist Posts: 60 Kudos: 17 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-May-2003 ![]() ![]() | it has got to be oscars if you are looking for personality. |
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oscar_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 83 Kudos: 62 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | oscars. You can get small oscars cheap and they grow up fast you cannot go wrong with one of them, or get a JD |
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Anti Fishman![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 478 Kudos: 402 Votes: 0 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Gold severums have lots of personality ![]() |
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Nick Taylor 421![]() Fingerling Posts: 40 Votes: 0 Registered: 23-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | $300 by mail!!!!! for flower horns, i dont think so. Maybe for large ones, but the fun in fish is watching them grow, i bought my flowerhorn for seven dollars. Granted he was only an inch or two, but he grew so fast. He outgrew my starter tank in a few months. I love flowerhorns, and i think that is the way to go |
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oscar_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 83 Kudos: 62 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | what about an oscar? i think u should get an oscar tons of personality and they will grow up fast |
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Tetra Fan![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I say Severums because mine has an outstanding personality. It will swim up to the glass to look at me and it will do like tricks for me (swim in a circle, dart up then down, do a backflip underwater!!) it's so cool. My friend also has a gold Severum (most likely from the same spawn as mine) and whenever he puts his hand into the tank it will swim towards it and one time it ran onto his hand. Great fish!! ![]() |
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larry c![]() Hobbyist Posts: 95 Votes: 0 Registered: 16-Mar-2004 ![]() ![]() | Flowerhorns can run you some bucks, $300 by mail. |
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Tetra Fan![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Severums ![]() |
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pookiekiller12![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 574 Kudos: 633 Votes: 41 Registered: 13-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | I know Ive said before, but texas cichlids are stunning from the time they are half grown. They have all the desireable personality traits of an oscar, without getting as huge, and they are not AS messy either. |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | at 14"+ adult size, a black belt would outgrow a 55 gallon tank. Jason ![]() |
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Tetra Fan![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Oscars grow fast ![]() |
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oscar_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 83 Kudos: 62 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | oscars will grow to about 13 inches within about 2-3 years but by getting the bigger tank by then your oscar will be very happy, by the way why don't you get a bigger tank if you saving for about 2 years i mean put osme money away now and in 2 years time u can by a 150 gallon and maybe stock a few more... good luck, 55 gallon is big enough but only just reccommended to be biggger! |
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livebait![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 211 Kudos: 242 Votes: 76 Registered: 25-May-2004 ![]() ![]() | I was under the impression that the difference between a 55 and a 75 was only the width and height of the tank. If possible, I would suggest starting with a 75, if the price difference isnt that much. |
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Tetra Fan![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1203 Kudos: 1081 Votes: 63 Registered: 11-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() ![]() | the difference between the 55 and the 75 is the 75 is wider. and if it means anything the 75 gallons glass is thicker too ![]() |
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Fish_Tank![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 860 Kudos: 940 Votes: 1 Registered: 13-Nov-2003 ![]() ![]() | Can i ask why blue acars havn't been mentioned?? ![]() Mine is great fun, really pretty and with a 55g you could have a male and female pair and/or some other fish as well ![]() ![]() they get 6" btw ![]() |
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me is already in use![]() Fish Addict Posts: 596 Kudos: 99 Votes: 25 Registered: 02-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I know that oscars grow really fast, but once they mature, growth slows down |
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fulboar![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Small Fry Posts: 10 Kudos: 6 Votes: 0 Registered: 17-May-2004 ![]() ![]() | I THINK YOU SHOULD GET RED DEVIL BIG PERSONALITY MINE EVEN EATS FROM MY HANDS GREAT PET ![]() ![]() |
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oscar_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 83 Kudos: 62 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | i trained my oscar to jump through a hoop, hes so cooleverytime he can see me at the freezer he circles the tank like a physco |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Red devils and oscars are great fish but they should really be kept in at least a 75 gallon as they reach their full grown sizes of 14"+. C. salvini, H. carpintis, P. loisellei, P. friedrichsthalli, Jack dempsey, green terror, G. brasiliensis, and any thorichthys, archocentrus or cryptoheros would be much better suited for a 55. granted some of these fish will hit 12" and would be pushing it, but would be better than a 14" or 16" fish. these fish will also show just as much personality as oscars and red devils. Jason ![]() |
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Doedogg![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 408 Kudos: 737 Votes: 445 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I'm going to to go with a Jack Dempsey...a blue one if I can find it without spending a fortune. Steph ~ Mae West |
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nano reefer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 ![]() ![]() | The blue ones are realy nice ![]() |
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xxmrbui3blesxx![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1760 Kudos: 905 Votes: 0 Registered: 10-Nov-2001 ![]() ![]() | I know these are African fish, but how about a Jewel cichlid? |
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nano reefer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 ![]() ![]() | they are'nt very big they are only 4"s ! ![]() |
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jez 69![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 104 Kudos: 59 Votes: 0 Registered: 15-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | my flowerhorn is about 16cm and i was surprised when i see him right next to the other guys not doin anithing but im sure mine is just a one off, because i left him in a section of the tank in a clear divider because origenally attacking my other fish. and for some reason my frontosa like to school with him ![]() ![]() thanks ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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nano reefer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 ![]() ![]() | The blue ones are realy nice ![]() |
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xxmrbui3blesxx![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Master Posts: 1760 Kudos: 905 Votes: 0 Registered: 10-Nov-2001 ![]() ![]() | I know these are African fish, but how about a Jewel cichlid? |
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nano reefer![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 716 Kudos: 570 Votes: 3 Registered: 29-Feb-2004 ![]() ![]() | they are'nt very big they are only 4"s ! ![]() |
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Doedogg![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 408 Kudos: 737 Votes: 445 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | I would like to set up a tank at work (55 gal would be the largest I can get away with) and the only requirements for the fish is that it have LOTS of personality, on the large side and it needs to be central/south american because of the water I have here (soft with low GH). I really want an Oscar but I know that a 55 gal may not be quite big enough for it. Any suggestions?? Steph ~ Mae West |
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skunk![]() Enthusiast Posts: 185 Votes: 0 Registered: 23-Jun-2003 ![]() ![]() | a flowerhorn ![]() iv got one & hes really cool ![]() they dont get as large as oscars..most of them dont anyways. but then again i think they probably could eventho the largest iv seen was 12inches. |
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Sin in Style![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1323 Kudos: 1119 Votes: 165 Registered: 03-Dec-2003 ![]() ![]() | i hear JD have a very nice personality. not sure on the actualy full size of these guys. |
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smnst![]() Hobbyist Posts: 148 Kudos: 92 Votes: 0 Registered: 18-Feb-2003 | You will be amazed at how a plain jack dempsey juvenile will grow into a beautiful fish that comes to the glass when it sees you. You won't be disappointed. |
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pookiekiller12![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 574 Kudos: 633 Votes: 41 Registered: 13-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | Texas cichlids. Some sites differ on the max size, so do a little checking on your own, but I think 12 inches is about max. Mine now is about 7 inches. Probably only one would go well in a 55. Mine is absolutely beautiful, it is one of the prettiest fish I have ever kept in all my years as a fishkeeper. They have a doglike personality, similar to oscars. It looks jeweled. As a baby it was pretty, but when it hit 4-5 inches it became stunning. It has long flowing tips on its fins, and like many cichlids, it has some color changing ability. And for sheer personality, it is hard to beat good ole convicts. A pair is very fun, and you will have fry in no time. You could have some other fast fish in with the convicts. They are very pretty fish as adults. [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-06-11 11:00][/span] |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | convicts, carpintis, and jack dempseys are all good choices. I'd stay away from oscars and flowerhorns just because they get very big. both fish can reach 16" or so. other fish that reach ~10-12" would include H. cyanoguttatus (the real texas), green terrors, P. loisellei, P. friedrichsthalli, G. brasiliensis and most severums. other good choices if you can find them would be N. bartoni, T. wesseli (will probably be very hard to find), N. salvini or any Thorichthys or Cryptoheros species though these won't get much over 6" ea. Jason ![]() |
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Rauquie![]() Small Fry Posts: 10 Votes: 0 Registered: 20-Mar-2004 ![]() ![]() | Jack Demseys...I raised one for 5 years and it turned out to be a terrific pet... It recognized me in the room...fed from hand, learned tricks, personality plus...super intelligent.. |
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Perky![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1064 Kudos: 1036 Votes: 162 Registered: 24-Nov-2003 ![]() ![]() | The cichlids I have heard people say they have personalities are all of the bigger ones and Jack Dempseys, Red Devils and Oscars. I only keep small Cichlids because I prefer oddballs so my bigger tanks are oddballs. |
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jez 69![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 104 Kudos: 59 Votes: 0 Registered: 15-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | i have a flowerhorn thats in a 55g tank and hes doin well. mine was recently in a divided section of my tank because he was being badand killed my little oscar.but now that ive taken the divider out, hes doing well and being nice to our other fish, ive mixed him with african cichlids.if u kan get a firemouth with it they will mix. p.s flowerhorns are great fish] ![]() ![]() |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | how big is your flowerhorn jez 69? they will not show their true aggression/personality until they hit somewhere around ~6-8". this is when they reach maturity. most flowerhorn owners advise them to be kept on their own in anything under a 180 gallon tank as when they get closer to adulthood they become very nasty the bigger they get. ![]() Jason |
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oscar_man![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 83 Kudos: 62 Votes: 0 Registered: 21-Jun-2004 ![]() ![]() | what you really want is a nice male parrot fish they grow really big and really buetiful with lots of personality or get a black-belt |
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rabbit![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 580 Kudos: 461 Votes: 7 Registered: 24-Oct-2003 ![]() ![]() | jez our tanks are both 60 gallons not 55 gallons and you kno frontosa get big real big. |
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DaMossMan![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fish Guru Piranha Bait Posts: 2511 Kudos: 2117 Votes: 359 Registered: 16-Nov-2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Get a green terror ! The Amazon Nut... |
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jez 69![]() ![]() ![]() Hobbyist Posts: 104 Kudos: 59 Votes: 0 Registered: 15-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | cioll don i know when dey get bigger im gunna get dem their own tank ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Jimmy22![]() Fish Addict Posts: 582 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-Jun-2003 ![]() ![]() | My JDs are cool but they are quite shy if there arnt any other fish in the tank. Look at it from the fishes point of view if there arnt any other fish swimming around somthing has to be eating them so he wwill just stay in his cave where he feels safe. So i think it would be better to get somthing like a convict that doesn't get as big that you can keep sme other fish with. |
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songbird1963![]() Enthusiast Posts: 238 Votes: 0 Registered: 09-Apr-2004 ![]() ![]() | A Gold Severum is beautiful and has personality but quite peaceful IMO. They get 9 inches I think. Mine was about 5 inches long when he died...I had him in my community tank and he didnt bother anyone. [span class="edited"][Edited by 2004-06-13 12:40][/span] |
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Doedogg![]() ![]() ![]() Banned Posts: 408 Kudos: 737 Votes: 445 Registered: 28-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I am leaning towards a Red Devil or a Jack Dempsey. Steph ~ Mae West |
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Jason_R_S![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Moderator Posts: 2811 Kudos: 2421 Votes: 391 Registered: 18-Apr-2001 ![]() ![]() ![]() | keep in mind, a jack dempsey would be fine its entire life in a 55 gallon whereas a red devil will eventually become cramped and would do better in a larger tank as it reaches adulthood unless you wind up with a female ![]() Jason |
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livebait![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enthusiast Posts: 211 Kudos: 242 Votes: 76 Registered: 25-May-2004 ![]() ![]() | I say Midas/Red Devil ![]() |
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Clown_Loach_Kid![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | or u could get a pair of FIREMOUTH cichlids in there ![]() firemouths ![]() ![]() good luck ![]() 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out .. |
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Perky![]() Mega Fish Posts: 1064 Kudos: 1036 Votes: 162 Registered: 24-Nov-2003 ![]() ![]() | CLK, you are nuts, Firemouths ain't the best. You want 4 Keyhole Cichlids, 2 Featherfin Catfish and a pair of Rams. |
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Clown_Loach_Kid![]() ![]() Fish Addict Posts: 682 Kudos: 1043 Votes: 34 Registered: 23-Jan-2004 ![]() ![]() | u want a cichlid with a big personality then u dont want a 4in keyhole cichlids do yah? ![]() get a pair of firemouths and u wont regret it ![]() 6x2x2 - Firemouth and Oscar Tank 30+ royal pythons. Back in the game after 4 years out .. |
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Jimmy22![]() Fish Addict Posts: 582 Votes: 0 Registered: 03-Jun-2003 ![]() ![]() | All cichlids have great personalits, exept rams! i dont like them. i still say convict |
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