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i think ill go with the julie's if i cant find any shellies.If i find shellies how many dp you think i should get?

I think its still pushing it a bit. What you may do is start with a 6 (1.5" brichardi and let them mature. Pick out only the best pair, and yea, you get the point by now

If the brichardi seem to outgrow the tank, I'd remove them. Be sure to have a fry tank set up for them when they breed.

its a 15g long tank.

I doubt a 15 cube would be suitable for a pair of brichardis. They usually need a 20-30 gallon standard or long. After breeding, you'll be stuck with ALOT of fry in that tank.

15 long is what I'd call the minimum for a breeding pair of brichardis. You could get 4 which will give you a pretty good chance of getting a pair (especially if you pick the 2 biggest and two smallest in the tank), and once a pair forms trade or "donate" the unpaired fish to the LFS.

Also, any shellies would work in there, too.

Eric

i didnt end up going with the cube i went with the 15g long tank.
what about brichardies?

Note that electric yellows like to be in colonies of 4+, and even if you do keep one, it is not enough room for it in a 17g cubed.

Keyholes would be a bit cramped in a cubed tank, for a 17 regular they might be okay.

Sorry mate, I never took any notice of it.

Im pretty sure its just "Revesby aquariums"

troy what was the name of that shop? might go have a look when the parents get back.

Hey Never Say Die, I saw some julichromis at the local shop down here at revesby. Mabe get a pair of those?

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A electric yellow would be nice.
Doesn't really get that big and turn into monster like some cichlids.
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Regarding the shellies - what is the footprint of your tank? 17 gallons and cubed it's probably not huge. I'd suggest only a pair, maybe two of N. brevis, abou 4-6 multies (especially if small - they're just too hard to sex if small) or 1-2 males and 3-4 females if they're big enough to sex (size is the only way to sex them)...I've not kept occelatus so I won't comment.

Another shellie/rock dweller that would work great would be N. caudopunctatus - not the flashiest in looks, but they're a lot like a smaller brichardi in personality. Some prefer shells, but they're out and about more than most shellies and some prefer to live in rocks...get 4 and your tank will be a lot of fun with constant activity. I can't believe I forgot about these guys! Great, great fish and ideal for your tank. If they have fry, they'll do the colony/multigeneration thing.

Eric

Just to clarify, just one discus will not fit in a 17 gallon. Two discus would be even worse. They certainly wouldn't breed in a tank that size, and they would die off rather quickly.

With the shell-dwellers, how many you can fit depends on the species. For ones similar in size to N. brevis, you could probably fit at least five or six in the 17 gallon. For others, it would be fewer.

Last edited by sirbooks at 20-Oct-2004 18:25

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Depends on the species. With multis, a couple of males and some females to start. With occies, a pair, maybe a small harem. Etc. See if you can find out what species are available, it'll be easier to advise you from there.

Last edited by LittleMousling at 20-Oct-2004 18:25

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hey i got a spare 17g and i was woundering could i put in a couple of smaller cichlids? it is cubed so the rock work will be going in the centre and going up towards the top.

or i have another suggestion buy two discus too breed they are tough to have but amazingly nice looking fish

A pair of dwarf julies should do OK in there. Stay away from transcriptus labelled "Gombe" though as they are more agressive than tran. "bemba", ornatus or dickfeldi.

The julies will use all of the rock up to the top, so the height would be great for them.

Also, as already mentioned, shellies would work great, too.

Eric

go with the shellies nothing else is really going to be good for your 17 gallon tank if u dont want to get shellies or cant and you dont want rams i suggest u just get other fish

I think a pair of a small julie species would fit the bill quite well - but I wouldn't add anything in with them.

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