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kidsmom
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Will a firemouth and an angel work if I get them both young?
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There are several factors that can affect the answer here, including tank size and water parameters. Firemouth cichlids aren't as aggressive as many of their Central American neighbors, but they still tend to be more pushy than angelfish. A territorial firemouth could easily make short work of an angel, especially if the angel was a peacefully-inclined one.

Another problem is water parameters, specifically pH and hardness. Angelfish like their water on the soft and acidic side, whereas firemouths prefer harder, more alkaline water. They can both stand wide pH and gH ranges, but they are both better off in a certain range, and these species do not have overlapping ranges.

In short, it really isn't a good idea to put these fish together. They certainly *can* be kept in the same tank, but it isn't recommended. They are just different enough where it counts.



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I have a 46g tank. Do you have any suggestions for my tank?
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well what are you looking for, and whats in there now??
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Right now I have 1 red tail shark that is it. I like South America cichlids, Afican cichlids are ok but I hear they can get really agressive. Suggestions????
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what about

1 firemouth
the rts
12 tiger barbs or 8 platies(2m/6f)
the platys live with firemouths in the wild- the firemouth would keep the platy population under control




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I've owned several SA Cichlids. One tank is just angels. No way would I put any other cichlid in with the angels. Although the RTS and angels would do ok I think. If you get angels, I suggest more than 3. They tend to get agressive on the weaker one. Also the firemouth would be ok. They are seriously aggressive in my experience but don't think they'd mess with the shark. None of my cichlids ever got agressive with bottom feeders (sharks, loaches, plecos, corys). I have a green & gold sev that just had babes in with a shark & pleco. They beat the tar out of the festivum in there of the same size though! She's ok...in another tank.


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i dont know about the firemouth with the angel. i have a firemouth, hes not too aggressive but at 2 inches takes on some 5 inch silver dollars to keep them in check. they are fast and get away but angels are slower and might get beat up.
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If you want other cichlids with an angel I'd recommend something like keyholes, German rams, or Bolivian rams.

Too chancy with a firemouth.

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Yeah I agree I have keyholes in with my firemouths and they get along fine just ignore each other but I have to gold severums and they pick on the keyholes no end. I am looking to sell the Severums if anyone is interested [link=click here]http://
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kidsmom
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Thanks for the information I went with the angels and gouramis
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