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princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	looking htorugh the profiles here in the site, i've notcied there are alot of "peaceful" cichlid's, what i was wondering is can you do a tank with like krib, rams, and some others? me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
sirbooks Moderator Sociopath Posts: 3875 Kudos: 5164 Votes: 932 Registered: 26-Jul-2004	Well, you could in theory, but all cichlids do get territorial when breeding. Also, kribs are supposedly peaceful, but other people have had some bad experiences. Bolivian rams, some apistos, and angelfish are good peaceful cichlids. And when he gets to Heaven, to Saint Peter he will tell: "One more Marine reporting, Sir! I've served my time in Hell."
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
inkodinkomalinko Fish Guru Posts: 2441 Kudos: 833 Registered: 18-Jan-2003	You probably could do a tank with apistos angels festivum and severums if the tank is large enough. Kribs get nasty when they are breeding and are semi territorial. Uarus (they arent that attractive though) are a very good cichlid for medium sized tetras and smaller peaceful cichlids. They are the gentle giants of cichlids
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
bratyboy2 Big Fish Posts: 355 Kudos: 340 Votes: 1 Registered: 21-Apr-2004	sirbooks u forgot discus.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
inkodinkomalinko Fish Guru Posts: 2441 Kudos: 833 Registered: 18-Jan-2003	About the discus...I really dont know if its actually the best option in a community. I think they should be in a tank for themselves as the main focus. Having more than discus can introduce diseases and bad water quality. Having semi large - same size tank mates can also stress them out. Just my 2 cents.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Veteric Big Fish Posts: 376 Kudos: 549 Votes: 7 Registered: 19-Apr-2004	I'de say you could do a female krib and 2 male rams no problem, so long as you add both rams at the same time and size. Heck those are my nicest fish in my 33 right now. I'm also going to be adding an angel at some point (a small one, i know, i know, the tetras, they'll be fine). Rams do tend to bully each other, it takes time for that to decrease. I'de also say look into other apisto's, they're all-around nice looking fish. Don't pair any males and females together of the same species though, if breeding starts, it won't be pretty.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	no intentions of breeding, dont see the point. thanks for all the info though... i was just going to get a variety of types, and no pairs of males of any type... me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	think i'm going to turn my 20 onto a cichlid tank... thats why i was asking... do you think my rtbs will be ok? me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	A RTBS shouldn't be in a 20 gallon in the first place. Whether or not he will be bothered by the aggression of the cichlids depends on which cichlids you get. On a whole, RTBSs can hold their own against most fish, so I wouldn't worry about aggression, rather about overstocking. They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	always have had a rtbs in a 20, never had any problems and they have always gotten at least 4 inches long... so i think the whole not in a 20 is a personal opinion not a fact me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
littlemousling Conchiform Posts: 5230 Registered: 23-Aug-2003	Not a ton of point having cichlids if you don't breed, IMO - they're no prettier in most cases than tetras, and without watching them raise and protect young, what's the point, really, of having the intelligent fish that cause trouble rather than the peaceful, stupid fish? -Molly Visit shelldwellers.com!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
inkodinkomalinko Fish Guru Posts: 2441 Kudos: 833 Registered: 18-Jan-2003	I believe it is fact that RTBS require a tank of at least 3' for ample swimming space for such an active fish. With the cichlids, a larger tank is definetly better.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
Janna Mega Fish Posts: 1386 Registered: 24-Aug-2003	RTBS can get over 7 inches long, so there is something wrong with them getting to only 4 inches. They are a territorial, active fish that needs more swimming room than a 20 can provide. They shade the glow of it with their mossy-misty costumes, They wear masks of silk, porcelain, brass, and silver, So as not to mislead with their own, ordinary faces.
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	janna, if you re read my post you will see... "at least 4 inches long" me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
princessinabsentia Hobbyist Posts: 135 Kudos: 81 Votes: 0 Registered: 06-Aug-2004	and as for breeding, no i dont see the point. there are no stores down here that will buy or trade the fry... so why have a bunch of babies when i only have 2 tanks and thats all will ever have. oh what breed them so they can all get sick from over population in the tank? umm no thats just cruel. just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should me
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02
littlemousling Conchiform Posts: 5230 Registered: 23-Aug-2003	Calm down, I wasn't jumping on you! How was I to know your stores wouldn't take fry? Besides, most will be happy to take half-grown fish for free since they can turn around and sell them, as long as they're not something the store is already running over with, like livebearers. My point was just that if you don't breed, you miss out on nearly all the really fun, fascinating, intelligent behaviors of cichlids. Obviously you don't have to breed them! I'm just giving you one opinion on why you don't want to cross it right off your list. -Molly Visit shelldwellers.com!
Posted 26-Jan-2006 12:02


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