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i was looking at some flower horns and alot had the title, KOK strain, the only thing i could come up with is king of kong, but that isn't right, so what does KOK mean.

Last edited by Adam at 03-Dec-2005 23:42

Slang term for nuchal hump

yes that is wright,and the term king kong,is just ANOTHER name made up for the flowerhorn due to its aggression.despite how long the flowerhorn has been around there is info available in heaps of different websites but, its all pretty much the same.ive only had my flowerhorn for about 6 months,im still searching for new info,i cant wait untill this site does a profile on them.

king kong is a type of flowerhorn, just like Jin Kang, Zen Zhou and Kamfa. King kong I believe usually refers to a type of blood parrot/flowerhorn hybrid.

as for a profile on this site about flowerhorns...probably never gonna happen. the problem with profiling hybrids is that it's hard to say how they should behave, how large they should grow, where they came from (what species were used to create them) etc. without being able to pin point all that information, a profile would really be useless.

oh ok i was told from the dude that i got mine from that calling them king kong was just another name.thanx for clearing that up.i get what u mean about the profile,its hard to say something for sure,when it could take after one type of fish,or take after another type,(something like that?)

Your BIG problem with hybrid Cichlids is that unless you KNOW for certain the parentage, factors such as eventual size and aggression levels are going to be so much guesswork. Even with the advantages of known provenance, these details could still turn out to vary wildly from your expectations. Some of these are Severum/Red Devil hybrids from what I can gather (though of course the breeders do their utmost to keep such details secret to protect their lucrative trading) and that combination has a habit of creating offspring that are complete and utter berserkers in an aquarium - you get the combined aggression of the two species multiplied by a factor of about five, with a 'take no prisoners' attitude when fighting breaks out. The resulting hybrids can also grow bigger than either of the parents - this tends to happen with hybrid fishes of many different kinds. I'd expect a Severum/Red Devil hybrid to be capable of hitting 14 inches - about the same size as an Oscar - and it'll be a mean fish. Flowerhorns are usually hardcore criminals that demand large amounts of territorial real estate and solve any perceived overcrowding problem in a simple but brutal fshion - exterminate the other occupants.


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002

I'd expect a Severum/Red Devil hybrid to be capable of hitting 14 inches -

just wanted to comment and say that the Severum/Red devil hybrid (also known as a blood parrot) will rarely exceed 8". they usually grow to about the size of a severum though with more girth. also, temperament usually is rather calm, again more along the lines of a severum's temperament. this actually makes me wonder if the old myth of blood parrots coming from a severum and red devil are actually just that...a myth.

cool i get wat you mean.i had a melanochromis maingano and a electric blue johanni spawn together,i feed most of the babies to my bigger chilids,cause i dont normally try to create hybrid babies,but i decided to keep 2,so i put them in with my oscars(about 7 inches) when they were about 1 inch long,within about 2 weeks they were niiping at my oscars and taking off b4 my oscars even new what happened,anyway once they settled in more there aggression went througth the roof,they went CRAZY at everything in the tank,but out of the 2 hybrids,1 was more aggresive than the other,so i gave 1 to a friend(still the boss in his tank,3 inches and going strong),and the really crazy 1 i kept 4 my self,anyway,when i put him in with my flowerhorn,still to this day he is the only fish she couldnt catch,(she did have him hiding behind the filter when she wasnt chasing him)so 2 days past of him hiding,then i put him in a 2 footer,where he still is 2 this day,he is like a purple colour,about 4 inches and he TRASHES his tank,whenever i try to make it a little bit neat,if this fish got big like other americans did,id hate to see the damage it could do.HES 1 BAD TEMPERED FISH.

That's the trouble Jason - the provenance of most of these hybrids tends to be kept as a secret, so chances are the few I've seen (that were, incidentally, BIG and mean looking) could have been derived from all manner of different parental stock. Judging by the behaviour of the ones I saw, even though the colour scheme wouldn't suggest this at fisrt sight, temperament wise they behaved as if they were a Festae/Black Belt cross, and moreover a cross that had been weaned on foods laced with PCP to heighten their aggression, because they were complete berserkers ... the dealer had to keep them in a tank split with dividers (and pretty robust dividers at that) to stop them beating each other up, and even then they'd try and have a go at each other through the dividers. Not something I'd want to keep in a hurry.

Incidentally, a back issue of one of my fish magazines has an illustration of a Flowerhorn whose body markings look suggestively Firemouth-like. So until the breeders of these things reveal honest data about the parentage, they could have been the result of all kinds of weird unions.


Panda Catfish fan and keeper/breeder since Christmas 2002